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For years, Donald Trump has leaned on all-caps social media posts to grab attention online.

His Truth Social feed often reads like a never-ending shouting match. However, that changed after Gavin Newsom (D-Calif.) began mocking the president’s style in dozens of posts interspersed among his regular missives.

This has been going on for the better part of a week, and seems to have gotten to Trump’s ego, as his latest Truth Social posts aren’t in his classic all-caps style.

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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 180 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

Mocking Fascists; Making them look foolish and ridiculing them, works. It's even more effective than just holding their feet to flame like Kamala.

This is probably why Jon Stewart is looking at running. Someone like him or Jordan Klepper is the worst case scenario.

[–] ajoebyanyothername@lemmy.world 126 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

The best strategy the democrats had was calling republicans weird, but then it just got cut off as it was gaining traction.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 61 points 4 weeks ago

It’s been telling seeing how quickly many news sources abandoned any semblance of honesty when their owners tightened up on the reins.

In the last two years I completely changed which sources I get news from, now I’m paying for more smaller sources and completely avoiding aggregators like Google or Apple news.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago

It was too successful, and their oligarch handlers wanted fascism.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 18 points 4 weeks ago

Because the Dems obeyed their consultants then, as they have for a couple of decades now, and still are.

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/vampire-consultant-class-wants-democratic-party-blood-and-money

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh no it’s alienating the (mythical and fictional) centrist voters!!! We don’t want to offend the republicans! Let’s stop.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

This is probably why Jon Stewart is looking at running.

Is he? I thought it was just other people saying he should

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

He explicitly implied he was considering running on Charlemagne's show. Wouldn't mean much for most people but Jon has always aggressively shut down any such suggestion and here he brought it up.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 29 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

By explicitly implied, you mean he laughed and didn't explicitly deny it when asked, then changed the subject. Also keep in mind he's been asked this question publicly probably once a week for the last 20 years.

I mean, it's possible. I'll just wait until he actually confirms he's exploring it.

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[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (17 children)

explicitly implied

Choose one

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

Implicitly explied.

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[–] threeonefour@piefed.ca 12 points 4 weeks ago

Mocking Fascists; Making them look foolish and ridiculing them, works

I once heard "There's a reason neo-nazis idolize the nazi brother from American History X and not the Nazis in Springtime for Hitler." One takes the neo-nazi ideology seriously and provides counter arguments. The other is making Nazis look lame.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

This is probably why Jon Stewart is looking at running.

He's not, he's never expressed any strong desire to outside of jokes and fantasy scenarios, this hype is the same bullshit celebrity worship and WWE theater that got Trump elected.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Trump has passively destroyed late night TV simply by being the only thing they joke about now. I honestly don't think writers even remember what they did before Trump.

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[–] mormund@feddit.org 104 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

The Newsom hype is a bit weird tbh. Like anything is better than Trump. But please America do better than business as usual...

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 117 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

It's because he's the only one actually doing anything. It sucks that he's the one who is doing it, but we should be encouraging the behavior instead of shitting on the only person giving Trump the middle finger.

Is he perfect? Hell no. But don't let perfect stand in the way of good. Well, maybe not good, but not a genocidal fascist.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

My one hope there is that Dems will pick up on the fact that the only people getting noticed in their party are the people who are at least fucking trying.

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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 38 points 4 weeks ago

This. He's not a progressive dem, and he won't win me over against mostother candidates. However, how he is getting under Trump's skin should be a blueprint for every other D out there if they want a fighting chance in the midterms and forward.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

It's also likely because all of the billionaires running media companies want him as the next Dem choice, so his headlines stick around.

Plenty of Progressives make noise, too, but they're never given any screen time.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I bet a lot of people would love to get back to business as usual as a pit stop on the way towards progress.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 23 points 4 weeks ago

"Business as usual" is what led us here, and what causes what we are seeing today.

If we go back to that "as a pit stop", we'll be back here in about 4 years.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

See the oil industry and their lie about Methane(sorry, "Natural Gas") being a "transition fuel"

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[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I imagine him as a very useful tool at the moment.

...because he's a tool, you see.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah I hate the Newsom hype. So many people just forgot or don’t care that he invite people like Charlie Kirk onto his podcast and agreed with them on transphobic talking points. Even if he’s just trying to do it to appeal to republican voter it’s really stupid. Their voters don’t want a fascist-lite when a full on fascist is right there. All he does is drag the democrats further right and normalize transphobic talking points. Which leads to violence and more deaths like what happened with Nex Benedict.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 4 weeks ago

Also his talking points on Palestine are wild. Dude is exactly why the democrats didn’t get in last election. Doing all the same shit.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

I don't idolize Newsom, but he's doing something. No one else is. Credit where credit is due.

No matter what, he's orders of magnitude better than Trump. He's also white, male, and straight and America has a big problem voting for anyone that doesn't meet that criteria.

[–] Kage520@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"You can always trust Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other options."

We need actual like, American rebuilding from the ground up change. But for that to happen we need actual, America is completely broken and people are going hungry. Until that time we will keep going back and forth between "normal" and fascist, with the "normal" slowly creeping towards fascism anyways.

So we will probably go back and forth a few more times because Donald Trump will die happily of old age soon, and Democrats will claim a quiet victory and pretend nothing bad ever happened. Reverse a couple meaningless law changes. Keep the rest. And then be shocked when the new Donald Trump takes the reins.

We won't ever as a country look ahead and be like "ah yes, that is the correct course of action. It's okay to lose some profits now because the long term prosperity of the nation is what's important." We always try the easy but wrong path first.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

If you’re expecting American liberals to learn the lesson this presidency has taught them, I wouldn’t bank on it. Get ready for a Newsom presidency, and then get ready for another weird fascist one immediately after.

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 76 points 4 weeks ago

it’s like watching a 5 yr slapping everyone and then gets a slap back and goes ‘ouch that hurts!!’

ANYWAYS: EPSTEIN FILES. WHERE THEY AT?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 67 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 weeks ago

Peepee tape when?

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

I know it’s gonna sound like beating a dead horse but this is what the democrats should have been doing since 2016. We all know how thin skinned and stupid trump and the GOP are and that they will always fall for meme and troll posts. Idk if it will help but this needs to be adopted by everyone who thinks they have a chance of winning against this republican regime.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

this is what the democrats should have been doing since 2016

I kinda thought they should have prosecuted Trump and his known associates for their litany of criminal actions.

But I guess making fun of them online from the office of the largest and most influential state in the country is also cool.

[–] ReiRose@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Fwiw i agree, however also: why not both?

Im a little tired of the high horse shit, and see the democrats as enablers of facism (doesn't matter if it's intentional or not really, the result is the same)

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[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Wasn't he impeached him twice but the Senate didn't convict? How else should prosecution have been done?

I'm a non-USian, so I'm genuinely curious what the actions you feel should have been taken instead.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

He should have been cuffed and arrested as he stepped out of the Whitehouse when his first term ended. Instead Biden called him a legitimate threat to democracy while doing absolutely jack shit to protect his citizens from said threat. And guess what? HE TURNED OUT TO BE A LEGITIMATE THREAT TO OUR MOTHERFUCKING DEMOCRACY. WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED.

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

They tried that with the "weird" thing until they abandoned it in favor of their usual tactic of attempting to defeat an army of shit-smeared fascist memelords by appealing to suburban wine moms who think Jimmy Fallon clips are bleeding edge humor.

They should have stuck with it. It drove conservative fucking batshit when they couldn't frame themselves as the "normal" ones.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 61 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It's good knowing the leader of the most influential and powerful nation on the planet is easier to manipulate than a child.

So, basically, like all conservatives.

If you haven't already, make sure to grift your local conservatives. Get them in on a pyramid scheme. Tell them you're a Nigerian prince and need a small donation that you'll return with interest once you've retaken your kingdom. Swindle them in any way you can. They're stupid and they will fall for it. These are traitors to our nation and the less money they have, the less financial support they can provide to their favorite felon rapist pedophile.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

easier to manipulate than a child.

Putin sure knows it.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

They're not all dumb, unfortunately. Some of them are just amoral.

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[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 30 points 4 weeks ago

I'm not even surprised that "cyber bulling the president" is in this timeline. Cards Against Humanity needs to be taking notes.

[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

Bully the bully into submission!

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Hallmark of the troglodyte republican. All caps rants and conspiracies, then when questioned and present contradictory fact, FOLLOWS WITH THREATS AND INSULTS FOLLOWED BY A SIMLEY FACE 😁.

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[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is dismantling the country and here we are nitpicking about him using CAPS LOCK. My fellow Americans, you will have much to answer for when this is over.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

you will have much to answer for when this is over.

Sure, come on over and start pulling people out of the shanties in our warring factions of techno-feudalism and asking them all kinds of questions about why their grandparents chose to vote based on caps-lock use and memes.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 15 points 4 weeks ago

Its hilarious that rump did not realize how long people have been laughing at him for this.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Im not a huge fan of Newsome but you got to give it to him. It took too long but someone is finally hitting Trump where it hurts. That is all anyone wanted to begin with. Had Kamala done this she would have won the election.

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