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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Weird that they started pushing bad updates after they fired all those people

Must be a coincidence

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Glad I ditched Windows entirely on my personal devices and went to Linux. No ragrets. Games still work wonderfully.

Any absolutely required usage of Windows on a personal device is provided by a VM running a stripped-down version of W10 LTSC, activated by massgrave scripts.

[–] skulkbane@lemmy.world 136 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I got a survey question from windows feedbackhub on my work computer yesterday, asking if i would recommend windows. And i thought fine ill answer this seriously with real reasons why.

I wrote a long explanation from my own experiences helping people and using it, half way through i shit you not, the feedbackhub froze and crashed.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I just put “[Object object]” in one of the survey fields when I don’t like the company.

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My, uh, friend needs an explanation

[–] ramius345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bad JavaScript code will create this text when a type conversion error occurs. A developer glancing at data in a production database will see it as evidence of an insidious bug in their code.

[–] Gerblat@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It probably detected a certain number of flagged words or phrases and knew it was gonna be really negative feedback and “crashed”

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You have learned the lesson. The lesson to Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C (select all and copy) your text into a separate document elsewhere before hitting send. In fact you should be doing that periodically anyway because browsers and browser-based apps are more likely than they should be to stop working unexpectedly.

And if the form disallows this action you'll have to get creative with the browser tools to modify the page that way instead.

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[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 175 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Jesus fucking Christ, is Windows just 100% vibe coded now? How do those fuckups keep happening? It's honestly unbelievable...

I'm so glad I decided to move away from it - I still have no idea what I'm doing in Linux, but then again I never had a lot of idea about what I'm doing in Windows either, so it's all good :)

[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 84 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You might not yet always know what you're doing to your Linux install...
But you can never really what the fuck Microsoft is gonna do to your windows install.

That's without even getting into whether or not Microsoft knows what they're doing themselves.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 28 points 4 days ago

Amen to that.

I settled on Manjaro for now because it's super nice and easy to use - I heard it had some issues with updates on the past, but for the last year or so it's been really nice for me, so I'll wait until the first screwup before distro-hopping somewhere else :)

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 52 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

As the article mentions, it's because Microsoft cut down their quality control to the point where they're just sending stuff out then reacting when people report what breaks. Sure they have their "insider" builds but that program isn't working very well to catch these issues that find their way into release builds.

Back in the day they had a massive testing lab and a big team of testers. Then they fired them all just over a decade ago. We can thank Satya Nadella I guess. He's more of a line-go-up man than a good quality products person.

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It's completely insane to me that businesses deal with it without suing their butts off. I can understand individual customers, they tend to be docile, but how did all this not cause massive losses to a litigious company yet?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Enterprise lags behind Home and Pro. Consumers are QA for Enterprise.

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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Microsoft is literally requiring its devs to use AI to write parts of Windows

[–] doctortofu@piefed.social 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

...and it shows. God damn it shows, almost every week it seems, with yet another fuckup.

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[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Monopolies. That’s what happens when you’re allowed to patent software.

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[–] BurntWits@sh.itjust.works 42 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I’m so glad I switched to Linux when I did (a couple months ago). I was dual booting for a bit but two weeks ago I removed my windows partition. Feels good to be free.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The only time I’ve booted into Windows in the last month is for the Battlefield beta and my work’s annoying proprietary VPN. Other than that I’d say Linux is finally ready for the desktop. Proton was the straw that broke Microsoft’s back for me.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

i had an annoying proprietary vpn for work that was unwittingly compatible with the openvpn client

[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What OS do you recommend for desktop Linux. I’m mostly into protecting my data.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 1 points 1 day ago

I use Linux Mint, which supports AppArmor or SELinux if you need the extra security, as well as allowing full disk encryption to be setup during install. Cinnamon (its default desktop environment) is very usable, especially if you’re used to Windows.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That really depends on you, keep in mind a lot of distro’s like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Kali Linux are based off of Debian just using different repositories and with system files in different locations.

I personally went with Debian and have had little to no complaints, definitely BASH/Shell/Terminal heavy so if you’re not willing to learn BASH I would probably use an immutable distro that you can’t easily break like Bazzite.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I’m mostly into protecting my data

Debian. Not Ubuntu - just Debian. Or Linux Mint Debian Edition (Debian with Cinnamon on top).

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (5 children)
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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Dunno why you're being downvoted, that there was a solid reference.

[–] DosDude@retrolemmy.com 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

For people that don't know the reference: here

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 35 points 4 days ago

"Thanks to Microsoft's legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass."

Oooof!

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Thanks to Microsoft's legendary approach to quality control, installing Windows patches these days is getting to be less like Russian Roulette and more like accidentally stepping on a rake left in the grass.

I like the second metaphor:

The whole neighborhood is going to hear you swearing and shouting 🤬

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[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Please don't upgrade to Linux so I can buy those outdated servers...

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago (20 children)

How does Microsoft regularly. Was up this badly?

Do all companies (Apple/linux) do it to but we don’t hear about it because of the smaller user base or is Microsoft literally this incompetent?

If they are, why can they fix the root issue?

The is a genuine question that I don’t have the answer to.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This kind of shit happens with a similar frequency... on Arch Linux. It's rolling release, shit happens sometimes. archlinux.org's homepage actually lists past major packaging issues.

Debian however is rock-fucking-solid. But so is Windows Server, I hear. The problem is that Microsoft is treating Windows Home/Pro like a rolling release distro, and the users are guinea pigs. I guess Microsoft is right though, their users will eat it up 'till shit is spilling out from both ends, so why bother?

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[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apple's base is big enough where if a problem like this happens, it's a big deal. Apple has the benefit of controlling both hardware and software.

With Linux, being open source helps it out since so many people can test and chime in.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Exactly, plus you can decide if you want to be on a stable distro versus one where you get to test new features / get all the updates at the cost of stability.

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[–] dan@upvote.au 19 points 4 days ago

MacOS only has ~10-15% market share (depending on which stats you read) so something breaking in MacOS has much less impact compared to Windows. Apple also control the hardware, so there's fewer things that can go wrong.

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[–] ronigami@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Break. Up. Windows.

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago

🐧🐧🐧

[–] Aaron_Davis@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Another reason to switch to the Linux. 🐧

I have a little bit to do left before I tell Microsoft to kiss my ass. But I will.

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