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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 points 43 minutes ago

Damn shame, Sony. I'm lowering my buy price by $50.

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

de minimus tariff exemption (imported goods valued at under $800) ends at the end of the month because trump said so a few days ago

this is why

source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/suspending-duty-free-de-minimis-treatment-for-all-countries/

This does not only affect playstation. Anyone who doesnt have a stockpile of inventory already imported are gonna be affected very soon.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Norwegian postal service will not send packages with less than $800 dollars (except for private packages). Many businesses will not send anything to the US in the coming months.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

1000001898

jokes on you if you thought this was about this term, it's about his first term.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

Reduce. Reuse. Recycle. Reduce comes first for a reason.

You do not need a PS5. You don't need a new console - if you need a console at all.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 3 points 42 minutes ago

"You don't need a new PS4-game player. Your PS4 is fine enough as-is!"

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

IN MY DAY WE HAD A STICK AND A HOOP AND WE WERE HAPPY

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 48 minutes ago

I'm my day that wasn't far from the truth. We don't need quality games machines but they're a very nice luxury.

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

A okay gaming PC withis not cheap. To some people, console is the only way

Just buy used PS5.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 48 minutes ago

What is wrong with ps4 or ps3? Are the games not good because they are aged?

I do most of my gaming on ps1 and wii, and a bit on PC.

[–] DarkDecay@lemmy.world 31 points 3 hours ago

Unfortunately Christmas is gonna be rough time for a lot of Americans this year thanks to the trump tax

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

I'm gonna wait until 11:59 to order my PS5 and then list it tomorrow as a "limited edition pre-increase model" for $150 more. Then Sony will hire me as their CEO.

[–] Timbo303@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

I thought these increases were going to be as bad as Xbox by the looks of things. $50 for PlayStation is way better than I thought vs $100 for greedy Microsoft.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 181 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Back in my day console prices would go down after being on the market for a few years

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 138 points 5 hours ago

Yeah but back then we weren't winning™

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 47 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Back in your day needless tarriffs weren't a thing.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Um, Aktuky...

President Reagan decided Friday to impose punitive 100% tariffs on a wide variety of goods produced by Japanese electronic giants in retaliation for Tokyo’s failure to abide by the semiconductor trade agreement between the two nations.

In approving a recommendation Thursday by the Administration’s top economic officials, the White House decided to put the tariffs into effect about April 17, less than two weeks before Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone is scheduled to begin a visit to the United States aimed at easing trade frictions.

The tariffs will be targeted to bring in as much as $300 million and designed to punish such firms as NEC Corp., Hitachi Ltd., Fujitsu Ltd., Toshiba Corp. and Oki Corp. by either pricing some of their goods out of the American market or by forcing them to accept substantial losses on U.S. sales.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Was that not a measured response to a failure to abide by an established agreement?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Depends on who is telling the story.

Japan / Korea were early instances of US industrial outsourcing. The consequences of the project was an economic boom during late 70s/early 80s in both countries, such that American politicians feared Japan and Korea would return to the world stage as independent regional powers. Reagan's tariffs, the subsequent opening of Japanese import markets, and the further industrial outsourcing to China, the Philippines, and the rest of the South Pacific labor markets effectively clipped the wings of the Japanese/Korean wage laborer.

You could argue this was part of the "agreement" between Eastern Zaibatsu executives and Western investment banks. But I'd hardly call it a "measured response". I certainly wouldn't call it a policy that served the best interests of either Eastern or Western wage labor.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Five years... in the OG days we'd be prepping for the next generation about now.

Then things got weird around the 2008 financial crash. :(

(US dates)

Atari 2600 - 1977
Atari 5200 - 1982
Atari 7800 - 1986
Atari Jaguar - 1993

NES - 1985
SNES - 1990
N64 - 1996
Gamecube - 2001
Wii - 2006
Wii U - 2012
Switch - 2017
Switch 2 - 2025

Sega Master System - 1986
Genesis - 1989
Sega CD - 1992
32X - 1994
Saturn - 1995
Dreamcast - 1999

NEC Turbo Grafx 16 / CD - 1989
NEC Turbo Duo - 1993

Playstation - 1995
PS2 - 2000
PS3 - 2006
PS4 - 2013
PS4 Pro - 2016
PS5 - 2020
PS5 Pro - 2024

Xbox - 2001
Xbox 360 - 2005
Xbox One - 2013
Xbox One X - 2017
Xbox Series X - 2020

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like part of it was that the console revisions past 2008 aren't as big of a deal as they were before. You also had publishers start producing games for multiple generations of consoles at the same time.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Games took way longer to make in the 7th gen and later, so 5 years for a console generation didn't cut it anymore.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Sega even had an earlier console in 1983 called the SG-1000. It was only released in Japan though.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 50 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But the shouty man on TV said tariffs were good! Why vibeo janes cost more?

[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Trump: tariffs ARE good. For budget, not for you, though...

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 32 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Bad for the budget too, because a shrinking economy shrinks tax revenues from other sources.

[–] Daggity@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 hours ago

Good for the sovereign wealth black hole of money though! Wherever that ends up getting spent, likely on gold plating the jumbo plane bribe he accepted.

[–] dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 51 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Well, that’s tariffs for you. Completely expected, though a ~10% bump on the PS5 doesn’t adjust for all the tariff increase IIRC.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

Then why did Sony also increase pricing in several other countries?

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 27 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Pretty sure this is due to the dollar weakening by 10%.

[–] dormedas@lemmy.dormedas.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Pretty sure the dollar weakened by 10% over it being harder to trade with the US.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's not a particularly realistic explanation

The USD index has weakened by 10% as a whole, but not relative to the JPY. It has held roughly steady against the yen for the past couple years, before which the yen had weakened significantly. USD to JPY is extremely high right now, compared to where it has been over the past 15 years

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 33 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 points 4 hours ago

Positive feedback from Trump trying to fix an economy he is beyond understanding.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

*capitalism for you.

the tariffs are part of the overall system which is designed to exploit folks a few rich owners can profit.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

I got one Nintendo switch 2 before the price bump. I better get the other I was going to get before that gets bumped too I guess

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (6 children)

Somehow I think this generation of consoles are going to be suffering.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago) (3 children)

"Going to be"? I feel like this generation already failed at the starting line. I can't name a single PS5 game I'd want to play that doesn't already look and run better on ~~my~~ PC. The Switch 2 is running on several generations-old hardware so it's already a non-starter. And Microsoft screwed up their naming convention so badly that I don't even know what the latest Xbox is called.

Hell, this console generation is somehow already five years old, and I still don't know anyone who actually owns one of these systems. Everyone I know is still using their PS4s, XBones, Switches, and gaming laptops with 10, 20, and 30 series Nvidia GPUs. Hell, I haven't seen any hype for modern console gaming since the XBOX 360/PS3 era. No one cares about owning the latest and greatest gaming system anymore. Everyone's happy with what they have.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago)

Astro Bot. I’d argue it is a system seller. It’s as wonderful as Mario Odyssey was for the Switch 1, one of the greatest platforming adventure games I’ve ever played, has a breathtaking soundtrack, gorgeous visuals and art style, incredible dynamic controls especially with the PS5 haptics, and a top 10 game for me. I had so much fun playing both Astro Bot (paid) and Astro Bot’s Play Room (free game). This absolutely deserved game of the year, and I’m happy it won. Asobo (developer) showed their full passion and love for gaming in this gem, and to play it is well worth the price of a PS5 in my opinion. It’s that good. And I’ve been a PC and Nintendo gamer for a long time.

I hope it’ll come to PC one day so that others can experience it. PC won’t have the tantalising PS5 haptics that immerse you into the game (the incredible adaptive triggers as you’re climbing, as an example, or walking through grass in that game and feeling the gentle scintillating haptics in the controller), but regardless, it’s a magnificent game that I want everyone to experience. I can’t praise Astro Bot enough, it’s such a gem.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago (2 children)

I can't name a single PS5 game I'd want to play that doesn't already look and run better on my PC

The keyword here is "my".

It's not just the console generation that is suffering. PC gaming is dying too. Crypto dealer the first blow, now AI. I'm still running an RX580 that I bought for $180 back in 2019. I was planning on buying a 9700XT at launch this year. Still not a great value- an MSRP of $600. Adjusted for inflation that's still ~2.6x the price and it's not going to give me 2.6x the performance. But even then it was impossible to find a card for $600 - even months later the cheapest one on nowinstock is $700, and those are hard to find. That's JUST the GPU - you still need another grand or more to build a decent PC around it. Even with this price increase, the base PS5 is $550.

I'm not trying to make this a console vs PC thing. They all suck right now. The only good values for gaming is on the fringes. The Steam Deck was an incredible value when it launched, and only looks better today. Other cheap, low-powered solutions like Chinese handhelds and android TV boxes loaded with pirated old ROM's. Mini-PC's that are good enough to handle 5-10 year old PC games... At 1080p or less with the settings turned down bit. Maybe an Xbox Series S might be a decent short-term value, especially if you are a person who loves game pass or just wants to play free games like Fortnight.

It's looking bleak. Not just videogames but everything. Food, medicine, clothing, housing.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 36 minutes ago

Fixed my comment

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

Then again, a cpu and gpu from 2018 still plays 90% of the Steam library so... more? Less? Relative.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

The only one I know some people have is Switch2 from my friend group. And its mostly mario kart. They stopped playing after a bit so it will be interesting to see what will occur there.

Overall you dont buy the system for the system, usually you buy it for hte games. And like you said....if the games are not there (PS5 games vs say steam/pc) then people are not incentivized to get it.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

They will sell fine everywhere except the US. I don't even want a switch2 because the bullshit Nintendo did with the virtual carts. God it's a fucking PITA to even play my first gen switches because I have to be sure both consoles are powered on and connected to the Internet to "activate" the cart that was active on the other.

[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

FYI there is a fix for the virtual Cart thing.

  1. Go to User Settings.
  2. Scroll down and find Use Online License.
  3. Switch it to ON.
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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's a good chance I won't be buying into the next console gen. Too damned expensive now for a walled garden. PC costs more up front, but there are much more affordable options for playing games on them.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Already skipping the Switch 2. Every time there was announcement I was like:

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