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our version of lemmy is old enough that clients like mlem are starting to break due to API drift, so I’m finally upgrading us to the latest stable version of lemmy. this will involve a bit of downtime and potentially a number of breakages; keep an eye out for anything that doesn’t look right after the upgrade and let us know!

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A bit of jank I have noticed on mobile: If I use the "view votes" feature of the mod menu, after I close the list I cannot scroll the page up or down. I have to close the tab and then undo, and then everything works again. (Am still on Firefox for mobile.)

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

I’ll keep an eye out for this on the staging instance!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

for the viewers at home: you definitely don't want to have to do this yourself

(we're going over the lemmy backend changelog and hooo boy)

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

an absolute clowncar of yolo development practices. here's just a few of the notes (there's a whole spreadsheet):

scripts that used to be called x.sh (shebang /bin/sh) suddenly renamed x.bash in main (shebang still /bin/sh). most of them take cli args, have no safety nets (arg checks etc), and have side effects (file alterations, commits and tags generated, etc)

there's a RELEASES.md which afaict is/was not generated by anything ever in the repo. it's also out of date, has been touched by 5 commits (one more if you include other branches), and is wrong

the build and test process ~~targets~~ uses both a rust stable version (1.81) and nightly

the container compose files fully switched out from the mainline postgres containers, to something called pgautoupgrade. I haven't yet gotten to look to see what it is/does, or what magic footguns it might be. the inter-version migration testing appears to be fully reliant on this thing.

the sum test action for migrations is "run sed over a target config, then spin it up"

there appear to be some new config settings. they have comments about their usage. they appear to be important. I only caught them because I was looking at the 0.19.3..0.19.12 diff

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ah, cool. so, themes? the thing that almost every software out there makes as a lightweight pluggable?

not lemmy, no. in lemmy you recompile your app to get 'em. (source)

(edit: there's a special kind of thinking that goes into writing code this manner. this is pluggable (see extra_themes_dir) but consider the thinking that goes into writing code like this. "some bits static", with a maintenance burden and a recompile overhead. it's just absolutely fucking dumb)

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

LMAO, what the fuck. None of those make sense, what is the decision process there?

Edit: thanks for sharing btw :D

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago

what is the decision process there

why think at all if you can just tread water and iterate 37 times instead?

(I don't really know what the thinking is, can only see the outcomes. but it's some hella mediocre no-effort shit, punching through the problem)

[–] flowerysong@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

scripts that used to be called x.sh (shebang /bin/sh) suddenly renamed x.bash in main (shebang still /bin/sh).

That's just...so completely ass-backwards it boggles the mind.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] mawhrin@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

is this the version that federates properly with instances running authorized fetch?

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

god I hope so

the current version has the option to enable authorized fetch but it breaks federation entirely if you enable it because it doesn’t work

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

when downtime? did it already happen

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Downtime soon fellow sneerer.

E: seems it is back up. Not sure if it is my tired eyes, but for a moment there the background looked more gray than normal. Good work everybody

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

damn i can't read

[–] BigMuffN69@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good news, I'll be asleep by then.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 2 points 1 month ago

Update: I woke up at nine, and it was still updating. Seems this took a lot longer than I expected.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Looking downthread at the bananas stuff ya'll are digging up, do you think that there could be some vibe coding involved?

[–] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

slander, lemmy devs are well capable of making all of this cruft organically

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago

so there isn't a cursorrules file? it does look like authentic organic artisanal coding Rust like a DOS batch file.

but OTOH I would not be surprised.

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

is it over can I open my eyes?

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

this arrow is giving me Feelings:

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

uggh federation's broken hold on

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

awful.systems, in its ST:DIS roleplay era

[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i activitypub i activitypump

[–] self@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] zzt@mas.to 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago

uhhhhhh there's a marginal whoopsie that's under investigation

[–] self@making.awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if these two posts were the other way around this would've been my next lines

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

honestly this is kinda a banger for the current lemmy debug experience

[–] self@making.awful.systems 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] self@awful.systems 2 points 1 month ago