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Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s national security minister, is planning to present Benjamin Netanyahu with a plan to detain the activists in harsh “terrorist-level” conditions in the Ktzi’ot and Damon detention centres for females, according to Israel Hayom, one of Israel’s biggest newspapers...

Israel Hayom quoted individuals close to Mr Ben-Gvir saying: “Following several weeks at Ktzi’ot and Damon, they’ll be sorry about the time they arrived here. We must eliminate their appetite for another attempt.”

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[–] Boo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So Israel is now announcing its intent to torture EU citizens?

What comes next, invading Cyprus?

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Watch as the EU will proceed to do nothing about it.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

They will loudly announce that in about 2 month's time they will recognize Greta's right not to be imprisioned but only if she stops proclaiming her innocence.

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[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago

What comes next, invading Cyprus?

Hey man, next time you're gonna give away the plot or foreshadow, please use a spoiler tag for those who aren't up to date this season

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can tell how the Telegraph feels from the juvenile choice of photography that makes her look somewhat bizarre, classic right-wing rag.

Yeah, the photo they choose is always a great litmus test for whether or not the article will be biased in one way or another. If an article has a flattering photo, it’s probably going to be praising the subject of the photo. If it has them looking silly, (and to be clear, in this photo Greta looks like she’s failing to hold in a fat shit while she waddles to the toilet), then it’ll probably be critical of them.

[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 65 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes, because as everyone knows the best way to stop determined activists from talking about your human rights abuses is to show them first hand your human rights abuses. I'm sure they'll just shut up after that.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is the "stop crying, or I'll give you something to cry about" bad parent approach.
Next will be the "look what you've made me do" abusive partner approach. Classics!
It's almost as if the Israeli government and military are abusers...

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's almost as if violence is only stopped by violence

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

It’s almost as if violence is only stopped by violence

eh, yeah... that's been working out great since the uk sold all that land to two different people and walked away from the shitshow.

I think we're in a situation where we have to take the decision making power out of the hands of people guided by religious rhetoric and malignant monocultural motivation in order to see any real, lasting change.

they almost had this a few times on both sides but the religious nutbags kept assassinating them. the trick is to get secularist people who recognize a multicultural society is stronger than the alternatives, jihad and genocide.

[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 days ago

Sure, but it still seems to be like a simply stupid move on their part. They're gonna turn one of the most influential activists of this generation from an outside observer to an eye witness

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 151 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

There is something particularly disgusting about how right-wing talking heads have latched onto this fantasy of punishing Greta Thunberg, for many years now.

Itamar Ben-Gvir, Israel’s national security minister, is planning to present Benjamin Netanyahu with a plan to detain the activists in harsh “terrorist-level” conditions in the Ktzi’ot and Damon detention centres for females, according to Israel Hayom, one of Israel’s biggest newspapers.

“Following several weeks at Ktzi’ot and Damon, they’ll be sorry about the time they arrived here. We must eliminate their appetite for another attempt.”

What is wrong with these people? You can literally hear the quickening of their breath when they voice their torture fantasies like that.

The activists were also offered the chance to watch footage of Hamas atrocities from Oct 7, which they refused, according to Israel Katz, Israel’s defence minister.

I heard this one before. Like it was some sort of gotcha. Like anybody even claimed that Hamas killing people is OK.

Fucking perverts.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They acted the same way about Palestinian woman Ahed Tamimi. Her cousin was shot by soldiers. She confronted the soldiers and slapped one in front of reporters. The Israeli far right went wild with outrage in the days after, with op-Ed’s calling for her to be punished for the insult and made an example of, with some even saying she should be sexually humiliated, and her entire family was arrested after the pressure.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago

They acted the same way

You mean the somehow sexualized punishment fantasies?

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's because she's almost a child and they want to fuck her

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Then. But she's just another young activist now.

DING DING DING! You hit the nail on the head! I still remember the oil rig workers in the Dakotas who were giving out stickers depicting Greta being sexually assaulted. This is when she was still underage IIRC. They didn't like her climate change activism and fantasies of grape are how they reacted to a child pushing for a better world.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ben Garrison's comic of Greta Thunberg getting spanked (spoiler for your protection):

Spoiler

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah I know it (I sure hope you didn't link it from his own site).

But I've seen worse.

Actual...... rape fantasies drawn on stickers. Long before she even turned 18.

I mean, there's always going to be a couple extreme assholes, but the general stance is surprisingly commonplace and they (men of course) don't seem to realize how transparent it is.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 170 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"How dare she accuse us of doing evil things! We should do evil things to her as revenge."

[–] griff 77 points 4 days ago

“Attempting to feed starving people—the nerve of that woman!”

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 80 points 4 days ago

Ahh yes, imprisoning her for the crime of showing empathy. What a bunch ghouls.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 133 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That’s just gonna make her committed.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Seconding the other guy('s sarcasm). I don't think Greta needs any help becoming more committed.

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m saying…. The act would make here even more committed. The opposite of what Israel would hope for. I’m not saying she’s not very committed. It’s not a criticism of Greta, calm down ASPD

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I know you're not criticizing her; I meant more in the sense that turning committed+ into committed++ wouldn't have much practical effect in Greta's case. Id wager that most of what she can realistically do she's already doing.

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Great, because her commitment so far has been kinda "meh" 🫳

🙃

Edit: I guess the "🙃" isn't clear enough so: /s

[–] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Whose is up to your standards?

[–] sloppysol@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (12 children)

I think that must’ve been sarcasm

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

You would think the "🙃" would have made it obvious. 🐸

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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] b_tr3e@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The irony is pretty clear - unlike the minds of that sort of commenter who's downvoting finger is a lot (~several weeks) faster than their sarcasm detector. I feel free to say nasty things about rhese spoilsports in this place because I am pretty sure they never made it past the first sentence.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is meant to scare her and her people, that's it. If they really wanted to kidnap her it sure as fuck wouldn't be projected on the news lmao

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago

Besides, kidnapping someone like Greta is bound to start massive movement and might actually force Europe to actually do something.

I doubt Israel want to stir that pot. They'll probably scare them off again and call it a win.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Terrorists masquerading as politicians.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 41 points 4 days ago

Made the mistake of looking at the comments before realising it was a Telegraph article.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This would only vindicate her.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My guess is that these extreme right-wing politicians have their fan base in Israel who will clap (and enjoy the righteous feeling of punishing a woman who deserves it stirring their loins). And that's who the speeches are for.

And maybe they haven't realized that the whole world is listening to their disgusting display of savagery now.

For the sake of Palestinians I hope they figure it out soon, although it would be nice to see them walk deeper into the trap they set for themselves.

[ I got distracted. This was supposed to be a direct reply to your statement - now it's indirect. ]

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

And maybe they haven't realized that the whole world is listening to their disgusting display of savagery now.

They know, they just don't care anymore. Same as with Nazi Germany.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We must eliminate their appetite for another attempt

instead of "it is advisable to discourage future attempts" that could be a more professional strategic tone... their language sound to me more like a mob boss in a mafia film, I am probably biased, yes, but that's the tone I would identify among fascists rather than among objective beings handling a problem, full of passionate words as if their strength would be based on that... anyway.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I know it's the Torygraph, and the media always use the worst possible photo when it's people they don't like, but come on...

They've made the poor girl look like Dana Carvey taking a shit.

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[–] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Eliminate her appetite for another attempt just means they fully intend on letting her go.

[–] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago

It is well known that Israel engages in systematic torture of captives.

[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What's that movie with the bowler and the Amish guy?

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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