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[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 52 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I feel like this is going to get non-combatants identified and ruin normal people's lives.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Wait until you hear about the 200 Flock cameras you drove past on the way to work this morning which already ID'd you and reported your movements to all of the 3-letter agencies regardless of whether you were suspected of anything.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago

I have a bicycle.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io -2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, and this sounds stupid, I don't expect to be doxxed by those agencies yet. If I got put onto an ICE agent list, then I could be fucked. I support fighting against ICE and identifying their genocidal employees, but we should be sure of who we're punishing.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

They are already using this or worse. Theil's Palintir is already doing tons of nasty data analytics. Add in Lucky Palmer's drone/surveillance company Anduril, and you have the data input and attack payloads ready to go, all from Chud industries.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't forget about all the info on every American the doge kids stole. They'll be using that too.

[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

They escalated this shit in 2025 no doubt.

Yes, this just levels the playing field so i think there is little to no downside.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is hella sketchy. It's MAYBE one step above saying "chat gpt, show me what this agents face looks like" and then using that to try and find a match.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Are you talking about ICE? Yes, they have attacked only non-combatants and ruined many "normal people's" (wtf) lives.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago

No, he's talking about you being (mis)identified as an ICE agent. Because this tech sucks.

[–] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

No, I'm talking about normal non-ICE agents being identified as ICE agents and being treated as such. Shitty ai shouldn't be used to decide whether or not we should dox people. We need to be precise in our vengeance.

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This one of those genie out of the bottle situation, we like some of the things AI can do yet it can do a lot of others that are not so good. Regulation won’t work as shown in this case, the work is done in Europe on a US issue. I suspect that we all will start wearing full face masks again.

[–] webp@mander.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would be kind of sick, if masks were more normalized

[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It use to be said that you shouldn’t be afraid of your government however things have changed. If everyone starts wearing samurai or Halloween masks just to get some privacy it will just be another step in societal decline.

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Samurai masks? This dystopian timeline is finally starting to take on some of those edgy cyberpunk aesthetics.

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

"I suspect that we all will start wearing full face masks again."

Maybe to terminally online people, but for a majority of people, masks aren't going back up. The US population as a whole isn't going to do significantly anything.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 2 weeks ago

There's no genie. There's no "AI". This is just facial recognition. Statistics run on images.

This is probably the least harmful application compared to what the imperial machine is doing.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Chozo@fedia.io 15 points 2 weeks ago

Doesn't really matter if it works, as long as it instills the fear that it could.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

All this stuff works on probabilities, even with a fully visible face the model just says it's really confident hence articles like this - Facial recognition leads to wrongful arrest.

So the more of the face that's covered, the larger the confidence interval, or basically the less accurate it is.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

ICE agents just like all law enforcement agencies, are public servants employed by taxpayers. Good luck finding any other legitimate job you can hide your identity from your employer. If you choose to serve the public, you choose to be in the public eye and should be identifiable. I could care less if they wear a mask or not, but they should be required to have some other identifiable marking if not, like a badge number, or hell, even something to identify that they are agents and not just random kidnappers would be an improvement.

As for being harassed for doing their job, if they're doing the job in a reasonable way, they wouldn't be harassed. Sure they wouldn't be able to hit the quotas they're given, but having quotas for finding criminals is a backwards concept in general and means they have to create criminals when there aren't enough that are easy to catch. It shouldn't be easy. It should be thorough, especially if no life is in danger from the "criminals".

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Skeptical about the accuracy, given everything we've seen AI do so far.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

If you read the article, it is stated that there is a team that hand reviews the matches at the end because of course, like all things, no, it is not perfectly accurate.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

The author said its 60% faulty. So everyone is an ice agent, after enough time

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago

The author said its 60% faulty. So everyone is an ice agent, after enough time

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, the "AI" grift is annoying and completely untrustable.

But as usual, there's zero "AI" involved here.

It's just facial recognition. Just more statistics on data.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No "AI" exists in the making of this statistical analysis or anywhere else, but here's a few options for facial recognition.

https://hackernoon.com/6-best-open-source-projects-for-real-time-face-recognition-vr1w34x5

[–] holomorphic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Sure, let's pretend the field of AI, with that exact name, isn't at least 50 years old.
Facial recognition has probably been taught in AI courses for almost two decades now. "Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach" is 30 years old, and only about half of it is concerned with Statistics.