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[–] teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca 121 points 2 weeks ago

Florida 2026:

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 77 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Seems logical for a country that has a healthcare system that profits off people being sick.. get infectious disease, end up in hospital, go broke

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It doesn’t work if doctors, nurses, and the rest of healthcare get sick too. If their kids are sick, they’re typically home with them. Hospitals don’t make money without staff.

These guys don’t appear to be thinking even one step away from the immediate impact.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

One can hope that at least some doctors and nurses in Florida still remember the advantages of being alive and healthy due to vaccinations.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sure, healthcare generally gets vaccinated. The cuckoo birds that made headlines are not the majority.

The measles vaccine is ~97% preventative. We count on herd immunity to cover the remainder.

In addition, this anti-vax wave includes removing subsidizing money from the public. Availability of vaccines will decline. Requirements promote availability and free programs.

I haven’t paid for a single COVID shot or booster, have you?

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago

Any doctor and nurse who has the reasonable capability of leaving the state is going to do so. Unless they're batshit crazy, in which case you don't want to be treated by them anyway.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yes, but herd immunity only works above a certain level. Vaccinations are not 100% effective and not every doctor or nurse can have all vaccines due to their own health conditions.

I would expect doctors and their kids to be up to date on their vaccines though, probably following the best current advice rather than the requirements.

I know here in Australia, there are vaccines that are not in the required schedule that many doctors recommend for parents.

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[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fucking going backwards. Way to go, USA.....wtf.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The way you think of the US, the US thinks of Florida.

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (3 children)

And the way the US thinks of Florida, Florida thinks of... uh...

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago

Florida doesn't do much thinking.

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[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Build the wall! Around Florida!

[–] CraigimusPR1M3@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I did an essay on vaccines in Jr. High, 20-25 years ago. I was writing a persuasion essay and I chose vaccines. I always try to provide views from both sides... even back then. As a child, in fucking Jr. High, I found Andrew Wakefield's study that linked autism and vaccines, found all the evidence against it, found out he lost his medical license for it, and realized "wow, there really is no argument against vaccines. These people are fucking idiots!" Again at the age of 12 ish... fucking anti-vaxxer dipshits...

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is going end tragically for an unthinkable number of children and immunocompromised adults.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Yup.

The Republican party are enemies of the people of the United States of America.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

that's the point.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago

Florida is truly the Florida of Florida.

[–] suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Looks like I'm never going to Florida again

[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Enjoy your polio, antivaxers.

And don't forget to buy stock in iron lung manufacturers. Gonna be a BIG spike in demand.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

What a shithole country.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

They will have lots of fun once they move out of there. If they get old enough in the first place.

The US is already at the tail end of modern countries when it comes to dying children due to the horrible health care. They are doing everything they can to get even worse.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow. Health crisis incoming.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 19 points 1 week ago

Sounds like Florida is pulling ahead of Texas in their race to the bottom.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 weeks ago

Good luck, good night.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

US Balkanization when?

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

Have fun watching your kids die. God bless America and all that jazz...

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope that the sea suddenly engulfs and submerges the whole of Florida.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Need to build a border, for the safety of the other states.

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[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

This black guy compared mandatory vaccines to slavery

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He and Kanye probably have a lot in common

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Even fascists in other countries aren't this stupid. What do they even want to gain in spreading diseases?

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[–] toppy@lemy.lol 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No idiot would make this decision. I don't think hitler was even this dumb. Science is real and works. Vaccines, medicines works. Trump and his friends have hidden agenda. Something is brewing in USA.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Trump and his friends have hidden agenda.

Donald Trump isn't a smart man and he has some very concerning beliefs. I mean we know for a fact that Trump slept/sleeps with a copy of Hitler's Speeches in his bedside drawer. He admitted that himself. He also has some very strange views on exercise, claiming the human body is like a battery and too much exercise can kill you. He tweeted that he believes vaccines cause Autism.

A lot of political positions have some weird fucking ideas on health and science, even the "normal" ones (Look up Posadism, right now, drop whatever you are doing and look it up right now, it's ducktits bonkers), but the Right are the ones who are most infamous for them. I mean the basis for OG Nazism involved Supermen with high technology coming to Earth on an Ice Ball (no seriously), but you also have ideas popular on the right like:

  • Socioeconomic factors for health are overblown or non existent (popular with conservatives and libertarians).
  • HIV doesn't cause AIDS/HIV-AIDS doesn't exist/Was made in a lab (Founder of GB news and Epistein book alum Andrew Neil believes this).
  • Immuno-comprimised people deserve to die as to not inconvenience them, personally (popular during Covid).
  • Vaccines cause Autism.
  • Gender identity doesn't exist and trans and nonbinary people are sexual perverts who should be killed (if AMAB or Intersex) or "Brought back to woman hood to save their wombs" (if AFAB, yes, sounds like a handmaid's tale).
  • Intersex people don't exist/don't deserve to live.
  • Contraception is wrong/doesn't work and should be banned.
  • Fertilised Human Eggs are instantly Sentient and Sapient.
  • Menstruation is a disorder (yes, you heard that) caused by toxins.
  • Faith Healing.
  • That certain races have superpowers.
  • That the world is ~6000 years old and the bible is right.
  • That Mobile Phones or phone masts cause Cancer/Autism/Covid.
  • That chemical reactions in people's guts cause Autism.
  • That Autism can be cured.
  • That Queerness can be cured.
  • That eating raw meat or dairy products is good for you.

And many more.

Now I am going to also say that alongside insanity, there's a more "rational"/Machiavellian reason for them doing things like getting rid of vaccines and that is the following:

  1. They don't pay anything to help anyone. Generally they believe the state is there to keep the underlings in line, not help them.
  2. They think that actual healthcare should only be accessible to those who can pay for it, especially if it's out of reach for the average person and thus is for the "elite".
  3. If people are sick, they will have to spend large amounts of money, meaning they can extract even more labour from them to enrich themselves. If they can't, well, they die and aren't a "problem" for them.

The reason why Trump and his ilk having these beliefs are the following:

  1. They're sociopaths who love the idea of NeoFeudalism more than a British MP enjoys Cocaine.
  2. They're not very bright.
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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

It's part of Project 2025. They need to cull social security recipients. Half of people in Florida are over 42, oldest state in the US. Kids are great at spreading viruses. It's just a version of smallpox blankets used to kill off natives.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

People are dumb in groups

Group membership and beliefs carry way more weigh than anything else.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Too many floridamen anyway

[–] huppakee@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well at least the leopards will have enough faces to eat ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's just a shame that leopards don't respect borders.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let me warm up my throat.......🎶🎙️ WE ARE ALLLLLL FUCKED !

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[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

West coast vaccine cooperative FTW

[–] Pofski@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"The rollback could result in fewer school children getting immunized against deadly viruses such as polio and measles."

There is no "could"

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[–] Zomg@piefed.world 10 points 1 week ago

Hearing "who am I to say what you can do with your body" while also making abortion illegal is so infuriating. Like, listen to yourself talk...

[–] happydoors@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Up in Minnesota the only hope I have is that the kids don’t create a national/international crisis when they travel and spread various diseases. We are all in this together.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago

Because being first is better than being intelligent. Or alive.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These deaths are going to be a lot harder to hide.

Make Iron Lungs Great Again

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[–] Nerrad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unsure if I should Up or Down vote this.

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[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 week ago

Seems like a fast way to completely kill your tourism industry.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I mean if they chose to stay within their borders and die, I'd be perfectly fine with that and would actually support it.

But they're going to cross borders and infect us. That's basically a hostile act.

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