This might actually be a decent idea, especially with scammers using AI-assisted voice changes.
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Yep, this very common in Japan, especially for elder people and it is recommended to have said word or phrase.
German has a word for it: Enkeltrick
I wouldn't be surprised if German had a word meaning German has a word for everything.
Yes normal
Not the worst idea when the most likely scenario is a phone call from a scammer using an AI voice clone to demand random money.
exactly this. Mother in law got one of those calls not long ago.
Having a codeword sounds stupid now, but might be normal in a few years.
"honey, you know we're broke tell the kidnappers I love you and dinner will be ready at 645"
With AI deep fakes being used for ransoms, this actually isn't a terrible idea.
Sounds like something a clone would do immediately after assuming the life of the original, in case the original ever escapes and tries to reclaim their life.
What makes you so certain that it was your husband and not a clone or doppelganger trying to confuse and distract you while setting fire in the house?
Having code words is good opsec. We had one as kids decades ago in case a stranger tried to pick us up.
"Your mommy is in the hospital and she sent me to get you."
"What's the code word?" No code word, find someone in a uniform or with a name tag.
This is kinda like the whole "What would you do to prepare for a zombie apocalypse?" The answer is the same for a lot of emergency and disaster prep but more fun.
With AI that can replicate your voice or any voice this is a good plan .
It's more prevalent in Latin America right now, but with the ease of being able to clone the voice of someone that posts on social media, virtual kidnappings are a thing that aren't going away. So the codeword is actually very relevant today.
Mine was mentioning a problem with a car they don't have as code for help.
I just installed GnuPG on my family members and have them cryptographically verify their identity
Reading my public key out loud before every sentence can be tiring, but it’s the only way we can be safe!
Oh hey Alice, how you doing? Anyways,
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Should only be necessary if one of your family members looks away. Should save you a little bandwidth.
This is the first thing I'd ask my family to do if I was already the doppelganger.
Lmao that's what I was thinking too. The real husband is far less likely to think of needing a codeword than the imposter is, and the imposter's best bet is to draw the family attention to the possibility first and alienate the original.
I have heard this in context of a kidnapping and asking a question only you will know the answer too.
The best solution to tell an imposter is by talking about a shared memory but changing some obvious details. You proof you are you by knowing the specific memory, they proof who they are by calling out the wrong detail.
Of course in context of a full clone, they would also have your memory and no amount of planning will help.
I always worried about something like that because I have a terrible memory
When I was in a very young grade at school, an announcement came over the speakers. It was something intentionally meaningless, like “just a reminder that so and so will be presenting tomorrow”.
My teacher jumped up and closed the window shutters. We were all counted and escorted to the gymnasium. Turns out that message was a coded code silver kind of thing and there were people with guns on the school grounds.
Nobody was harmed; not students nor teachers, nor gun-people, nor police. There were contingency plans in place and practiced and they worked marvellously. I look back and find it kind of neat.
legitimately a good idea to have a code word with your kids so theu can tell an adult you have sent for them from a kidnapper.
But do you have a code word you never told anyone that you can use to recognise yourself from the future or from a parallel universe?
Sounds like something a cyborg doppelganger would try to do
easy, just say "what if the doppelganger sets fire to the house? we need a plan for that"
Is a fire something you need to plan for? "Get out" feels good enough for me.
As @takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr said you want plans for how to get anyone vulnerable out, how to secure valuables (if, and only if, safely possible), where to meet (really important for kids, especially as you may have been incapacitated). But you should also know things like; how to shut off the gas (again, only if safe), where the door keys are so you can get out if they're locked at night, which upstairs windows you can jump from if the stairs are blocked and which rooms have solid walls and door to act as a refuge if all else fails. CPR training could save a family member's life, as could basic fire escape or rescue training.
Basically, imagine you wake up at 3am to the sound of your smoke alarms, the fire is already well developed and smoke is starting to fill the house. What do you need to know, or have planned, to get you and your family to safety in the next few minutes?
Securing persons (young children, elderly, or disabled people), pets, or critical objects (health related stuff, maybe a box with important papers or family belongings) can require a bit of planning. Also good to know where to head to once you're out, especially for kids if fire happens when they're alone. But yeah, for most people, "get out" is probably enough.
Yes you do need to be prepared. If you're inside a fire and even if it just started a few minutes ago, the ashes and black smoke will get so thick you will barely see an arm's length in front of you, and there will be complete opacity 2 meters in front of you. Also people can panick and make bad decisions, I've seen two people freaking out over a fire extinguisher "not working" because they were too scared to think straight. I've had to show them to slow down, read the instructions on the sticker, follow the steps and then empty the can. Fire drills and preparation will probably save your life if you're ever in a fire, and it may even help you save other people's lives.
My neighbors house caught fire and she got out but insisted on spraying the house down with the hose, she got trapped in a corner of her backyard and couldn't get past the fire.
we were trying to get a ladder to get her over the fence but luckily the firefighters arrived and are much better at rescue and quickly tore down some fence panels to get her through
I'm assuming the clone has your memory including the code, otherwise you can just tell a shared old memory
You do not seem to understand how cloning works. Tbf: neither does OOP's husband
What if that "husband" was already an impersonation of the real husband, so next time they meet both of them they can claim they are the real husband and tell the code word as proof?
That is exactly what a doppelganger would propose, you already lost.
Now your real husband will never be able to reach to you again.
the code may also be useful in more realistic current near dystopia scenarios of receiving a phone call that appears to be from family member. AI/Live voice impersonation is current tech.
I mean, a fire escape plan? "Go outside, away from the fire." I feel like any kid capable of remembering a code word could figure that one out on their own.
Now, the threat of doppelgangers? That's something a family isn't going to be ready for. Because they're too busy wasting time with fire escape plans. This is smart.
That actually sounds like a great way to spice up real safety planning to keep them interested.
It makes sense, never know when somebody is going to try to impersonate you for any reason. That's why I told all my friends and family that the best way to know I'm the real me is if I say my codeword "chariots".
The correct response is for the daughter and wife to agree on a second code word when the husband is being a pain, and insist that he's not real.
That reminds me, I should really get around to telling my family my deactivation code, in case I ever go haywire or something.
Honestly given the rise of generative audio being able to mimic someone at phone call quality from a small training set it's not unreasonable. That's the real clone or doppelganger to be fearful of.
I meant to bring this up at Christmas last year when we were all together but I'm going to for sure this year.