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This generation has never seen the ravegaes that these preventable diseases can reek.
These vaccines are the pinnacle of health care research and most were given away for free by those who discovered them.... They gave away millions in potential licensing fees for the greater good of humanity.... Now that gift is being spit up on by people who have no idea what they are talking about.
What a disgrace.
that's one of the side effects of the poor education in the USA... test oriented education focuses on scoring high on tests and general knowledge items such as the history of public health and vaccines are neglected, or if they are discussed, they are discussed in kindergarten terms
I'm pretty sure the people that did well in school are not the ones who don't support vaccines though
I mean if you know about the Tuskegee experiments you might understand why a certain group of people are skeptical about ANY kind of government "vaccine".
The TL:DR is that the US CDC injected people with syphilis but told them it was a vaccine, just so they could see what the long term effects of syphilis were when you didn't get treatment. 100 people died as guinea pigs.
I used to agree with that. But then Covid happened and I listened to people on the radio call in saying “we gotta let a few old people go to save the exonomy.” As though human life was an acceptable cost.
I genuinely thought people at least were ignorant to the death tole to then but I was mistaken. It got so bad the host cut off calls.
The vaccine then came out and I watched millions shun it, despite being shown to be safe and effective. Sure, some folks thought they were dangerous (disinformation and all) but that radio show told me, some people want the world to burn.
There are people who saw devastation and don’t get vaccinated because it’s an acceptable loss.
The fact that you changed “spit on” to “spit up on” was perfect. These are emotional toddlers flailing their arms and kicking their feet and accidentally spitting up on all of us and everything sane. Kudos
America won’t stop until absolutly everything is a partisan issue
Subjectivism enables propaganda and propaganda enables polarization.
And currently there is no solution and owners love it this way.
While slaves fight culture wars, they are dominating the class war.
No, the news conglomerates won't stop.
No one I know actually thinks like this, but it's easy to run made up problems 24 hrs a day, than point out actual corruption like every career politician insider trading.
People do think like this. News and media have issues but what you picture here is just over the top. Also not every x does y.
The true constant throughout history. Propoganda works.
The power of disinformation...
Some things can only be learned the hard way
Sadly, we'll be learning it right alongside them.
I remember that teaching about evolution was controversial back in 1991. But that was after getting my vaccines. But if all science is bad... I'm bringing back the evolution debate!
Please support quality education. We are constantly surrounded by propaganda. If you don't see it, it's probably already affecting your decisions. This whole "vaccines cause autism" rumor was started by a Playboy model with a potty mouth. Not a credible doctor.
And you know what's worse than the fear of giving your kid autism? A dead kid!
I'm so, so sick of stupid people ruining the world because they have a constant need to feel morally superior to other people by being terrible human beings.
Andrew Wakefield was a porn star and started vaccine denial?
In the US. It was Jenny McCarthy, she really gained a lot of popular and supporting attention around her wrong views, supported by the fraudulent research of Andrew Wakefield.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_McCarthy#Activism
Though its interesting this section of her bio is labeled under "Activism" and not "Controversy".
And she got the idea from Andrew Wakefield's paper before he was ejected from the British medical field.
Vaccine denial is about 2 weeks younger than effective vaccinations.
Jenny McCarthy is a footnote.
She was a celebrity so she had the status and power to stand up on a soap box and start yelling. I think you're understating her influence on the American Public. She was on a popular day time talk show 'The View' for a while that lots of parents watched while home with their kids during the day.
Also, I honestly don't know why we're arguing about this. Both of these people suck and are responsible for the vaccine denial around us. I'm leaving it at that
Funny how with technology people are getting dumber and tricked even easier
It's not "with technology", it's despite technology.
It's a decades long attack on education, public acceptance of low skill low wage unqualified teachers, and a complete lack of critical thinking in most of the population.
They don't understand how vaccines work, they don't understand statistics, they don't understand chemistry, they don't know how to research despite having the total sum of human knowledge at their fingertips. You tell them vaccines are made from fetuses and harms your children and they stop processing beyond that.
It's also that the dumbest among us have massive reach and we haven't culturally adapted to it. Similar shit happened with radio.
Every fucking day some Americans are allowing their enemies to win by defeating themselves with lies.
Big Pharma setting up for the next big cash cow of preventable things that will expand some stock market pocket books...
Can we start requiring proof of vaccination for Americans to leave their country please?
In semi-related news, I've become more pro-mask than I ever thought I would become. Because they fucking work and it's great to not be sick twenty times a year. Now that everyone's against them they're less than a dollar a mask.
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I have a coworker who wears a mask almost every day. (We work with small children, AKA sentient petri dishes. Wearing a mask by default isn't a bad idea.)
I'm not that hardcore, but I've found that they help even in non-illness situations. Like when the air is cold and dry, wearing a mask means the air I breathe is warmer. Not only is it more comfortable, but it prevents the post-nasal drip that such conditions usually trigger. Without post-nasal drip, my throat is less likely to become irritated. An irritated throat can lead to laryngitis.
Ergo, wearing a mask on cold, dry days prevents an entire chain of shitty events from taking place. The people stubbornly digging their heels in against masks have no idea what incidental benefits they're missing.
All sane states and provinces should require vaccine records in order to cross state/provincial lines from fucked up states.
I don't want people with filthy biblical diseases coming and getting us sick when herd immunity collapses.
We should just quarantine the whole US. No travel in or out without 2 months in a lazaret. If they wanna rot on their own, fine. But don't go spreading disease elsewhere.
We already forgot how Dutch sports fans basically infected all of Europe with omicron variant.
We ain't got no vaccine for stupidity but even if there was one half the US would be too stupid to take it
We were supposed to have flying cars, instead we have to tell half the population that plagues are bad. The future is dumb.
I assume, if they're a MAGAt, that they are antivax. That's thirty percent of the fucking country.
And stupid.
And amoral.
And generally just horrid people who should be shunned and made fun of.
Gross. I hate this anti-science bullshit.
People have talked about this before, but it really does seem like people have forgotten how bad some of these diseases could get and how much vaccines helped us. In 1991 plenty of folk remembered polio, maybe even had a relative who got it. Good number remembered smallpox and/or got that shot themselves. But now less and less people really understand both the scale of devastation those diseases caused and the scale of how many were helped and saved by vaccines.
We're doomed. If 51% of the country has decided, based on a neverending stream of lies, that we should all die rather than receive basic health care, then there's really nothing much left to argue about. America has has decided it would rather commit suicide than acknowledge that there are people who DO know what they're talking about and actually listen to them.
That's it. We're done. We're all gonna die of some easily preventable plague because we didn't fucking ostracize these idiots twenty years ago. The country is now run by the people who actually believe the comical lies the GOP used to tell to keep the idiots compliant. I don't think you can come back from that.
Florida is like the last nail in the coffin for whether or not to stay. What's the point in staying if our country isn't even afraid of smallpox and polio.
Smallpox is probably why we have contemporary anti-vaxxers. Without a lethal, Flood-like disease, people quickly think that it's okay to just be fucking disgusting and let themselves and their kids get everyone sick.
People will learn why we vaccinate against the fucked up, biblical diseases of yestercentury.
People are dumb AF. Especially here in the US.
You know what's crazy?
I've lived in the United States for over 30 years, and I've never been asked my feelings on any major news topic like this...
It's almost like the statistics are made up or something.
If done right, they took representative samples. Many potential things that can go wrong in these processes but the way sampling works makes it totally plausible that you live somewhere and never get asked. Exit polls for elections are also not made up and I've never been polled. And if such polls makes sense is yet another topic.
I wonder how many support vaccines in dart guns?
I once was on stage doing comedy and was surprisingly killing it. I pivoted and made a joke about how being anti-vax was stupid and everyone hushed up real quick.
That’s when I knew I was surrounded by fucking morons. (Morons who loved jokes about putting your groceries into a Dolce & Gabana store bag so you can feel superior to the other shoppers.)