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If you had the money to retire at 30, your savings would be invested and on an average year your earnings would cover your expenses. You would have health insurance, so no worries there. The only catch is that you would have to keep your expenses at 65% of what you spend right now. Would you take it, or would you rather work a few more years for a better lifestyle and financial security?

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

We couldn't. More than 65% of what we make goes just to cover the bills, so it wouldn't be a possibility. Even if we didn't eat or have a car.

Would be underwater and back at work within a couple of months.

If you mean some version of 65% of our current lifestyle like magically the house shrinks and costs 65% of what it currently does, then maybe? We don't eat out much, don't vacation much, don't go out much already though.

If you mean health costs all covered, and no more retirement contributions and 65% of GROSS earnings, that would actually give me almost the exact same net pay, and wouldn't be a different lifestyle. Those things cost 32% of my earnings and taxes 15%.

So I'm not sure exactly how to think about this but in short - I am more willing to work to have a reasonably good life, than to not work and not have a good life, but have a lot of free time. I do know how to have fun for cheap, have been poor before, but I like life now better than then.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, I live relatively lean already. 65% would mean cutting down to rice-and-beans type diet, no Internet, no investment into hobbies, no travel.

Also, there's inflation. At 30 years old I could expect to live another 40+ years. And 65% of today's dollars is going to get less and less valuable as the years go on.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

65% of what I spend right now? do we assume my mortgage is paid off and I get 65% of that money, too?

I'm currently spending less than I would like to so that I can save for retirement. do I just get 65% of all that money that I would otherwise be spending, in this scenario?

if yes to the above questions, easily. if not, no

Healthcare costs grow rapidly as you age, and have been outpacing inflation in the US. If your remaining money is only keeping up with inflation over time, you are very likely to fall behind later in life, when job opportunities are more scarce, and less lucrative.

If you can make changes to live more frugally now, and work a year or two more while your money is growing in the background, you will be much better off long term.

I have numerous family members that have lived a long time, and eventually faced severe health issues, so I expect that in my future. I will work until my retirement savings are more than I need for my current lifestyle, and then cut back on certain things to do my best to prepare for that eventuality.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Personally, no. You're barely an adult at that point. If you have the privilege of a disposable income at thirty, splurge and enjoy yourself. Treat yourself to new experiences.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)
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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If I could retire now I would. But living in the US is expensive and gets more expensive every year. From real estate taxes or rent, from insurance, from cost of food, from basic utilities like electric, heat, gas... Neverind if you want a hobby, or a vacation, or Any leisure activities.....

Every time I leave my house it costs me $100 no matter what I am doing.

There's no way I would have enough money to retire comfortably.

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[–] cuboc@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

If I was able to retire early at any age, I'd probably do some odd jobs or perhaps I'd volunteer for stuff. I need something to do.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wasn't even out of school yet.

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[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

Nope, 65% of what I make now is barely subsistence. It would be nice for a few months, but quickly become boring

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

No, because I'm close to 30, literally had a more favorable version of this option (enough money, relocate to a low cost-of-living country and doesn't even have to be frugal) presented to me, and I chose not to. And I already live frugal enough that 65% would be really rough... I'm okay with a lite version though: only take fun and engaging part-time/flexi jobs, and dedicate my full time to a rewarding but not necessarily well-paid (or paid at all) career, while cutting down a bit on spending

I just felt that with all the education & things I have going for me I'd rather do something productive that contributes to society. If I literally couldn't find a job that's not a metaphorical meat grinder then it's another story, but I'm not at that stage yet

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Living frugally isn't the problem, at least not directly.

The boredom is what would get most people.

Most people need to engage themselves in something satisfying and challenging.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The sky is the limit on hobby spending, but we've also never had more access to inexpensive hobbies and entertainment options.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (10 children)

The founder of Myspace retired in early thirty's after selling his company for $80 million. He travels the world and does photography. People who say they will be bored if they retire aren't being creative enough to think of doing something else.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Lol, that's called being homeless

I’d find a comfy job that’s easy to do even if it doesn’t pay the best.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 6 points 4 days ago

No. I'm already living frugally. Cutting my spending by further 45% would make my life unsustainable.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

65% of what I spend right now. So basically 35% below paycheck to paycheck? Seems like a bad idea to me.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

65% of what I spend rn would be unlivable

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I'd work a bit more. Seeing my parents struggle with money made me never want to do that. So I'll do what I can early on to reduce the chances of that ever happening.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 4 days ago

I'd continue to work. I want to do more in my retirement than just stay at home.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I was pretty close to this option, but in the end we moved to a much nicer house. So now our expenses are a lot more. I don't regret it, it's a much better place to raise kids.

I did took a sabbatical for about a year, and will probably do that again in 5 years or so. It doesn't have to be a binary option, you can do sabbaticals (mini retirements) and still work.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

i tried and its boring as fuck so i want to work again instead

[–] KingGimpicus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Depends on if I could afford to own a scrapyard/pick and pull first. As a welder and machinist, thats basically a playground for me. If I ain't working, ill still be making. Otherwise, yes. I don't spend much now as it is, but growing my own weed would probably drop me below 65% by itself.

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 days ago

I live frugally now.

I also just like to work. I don't plan to ever retire.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

No.

My mortgage and childcare are like 80% of my outgoings. Once the mortgage is gone and kids in school maybe

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

When I was approaching 30 I was looking forward to kids, and that wouldn’t be sufficient to raise them.

In a couple years though ….. once they are through college so I’m done with those payments and child support, living on 65% of my income would be easy.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I quit at 50, living on savings and stock market...

I dont know, its just something awful about working every day. I got sick of it.

Now im not doing anything special but im free to just live.

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It depends on what you mean by current spending. I'm putting almost a third of my pre-tax income into savings already. If you mean I can live off of 65% of my default post-tax salary, sure. That probably wouldn't change too much from my current expenses, and I would love the free time. If you mean 65% of what's left over after my normal contributions, then that would be pretty tough. I consider my current lifestyle to be relatively frugal, so that would be very hard.

I'm actually trying to achieve the FIRE lifestyle, so the goal is getting to the point where average post-tax returns on investments is at least annual expenses. But I can't do it by thirty.

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