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While attempting to transport a car crash victim to a hospital on Wednesday morning, a Los Angeles Fire Department ambulance was struck by another vehicle, authorities said.

When a battalion chief arrived at the scene to investigate the crash, they were involved in another collision at the same intersection.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You could of course keep detailed statistics about what kind of crashes and where and causes and, based off that data, redesign each intersection that has a lot of risks, making your city safer.

This is what they've been doing in the Netherlands, redesigning and rebuilding intersections all over the place over the past 30-40 odd years

Most of them are roundabouts now, but all of them got better and safer and the risks of being in traffic have gone measurably down

Then there is the United States of America. USA! USA! USA!

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Or, get this: make it so people don't take the car. Most of the accidents that involve serious injury or death involve cars or some other fast, motorized vehicle. Why not make more bike and pedestrian infrastructure? I also live in the Netherlands and even here I'd say there are very different approaches based on which city/town you're in. I really wish they'd make my city more accessible with public transport, there are certain routes where taking public transport to another part of town takes almost 2-3 times as long as taking a car. Why is that? Why not fund public transport and non-motorized traffic infrastructure even more?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, get this: make it so people don’t take the car. Most of the accidents that involve serious injury or death involve cars or some other fast, motorized vehicle. Why not make more bike and pedestrian infrastructure?

Of course, I agree. But living in North America, this would never work because NIMBYs would keep any politician who even makes that suggestion out of office.

The fear of change, even if it offers unlimited freedom, safety, and convenience, has such a tremendous influence in our infrastructure's design.

I once asked a city planner why we don't stop people from parking in bike lanes. His answer was that "we wouldn't have bike lanes if we didn't compromise", stating that the pushback at the idea of removing on-street parking would basically kill the idea of ~~safe~~ cycling infrastructure. That's the kind of small-minded BS we have going on here.

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

That's the kind of small-minded BS we have going on here.

Not just the US; Australia, NZ, UK, Canada

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Well yes, but...

Sometimes people will need cars. I don't think we should or even could limit car use to nothing. We still need ambulances, we still may need to transport something heavy to a far away location

We should make short distance car travel hard and all travels by foot or bicycle easy, like in the Netherlands. You just pick up a bike and go wherever whereas in a car you'll have to drive around for longer to get there.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A result of nothing is a lot better than a bunch of injuries and death

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely... and also tragically, since we're (USA) not going to do that effort.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Well.... Yeah! We want no deaths, and that requires a lotmof work, yeah

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

You could of course keep detailed statistics about what kind of crashes and where and causes

I am sure they do

and, based off that data, redesign each intersection that has a lot of risks, making your city safer.

None of that though.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

"Yo dawg..."

[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I can hear the yakity sax from here

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

yakity sax

omgf thank you

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

On impact the back door of the ambulance swung open and the gurney rolled away. So the ambulance driver got out and was a skantily clad nurse who then chased after the patient. It was like a scene from Scooby Doo where the gurney rolled across the street one way with the nurse in chase, only for the gurney to suddenly zoom by between a different set of cars in the opposite direction. She nearly lost her shirt and hat several times in a dramatic and with an exaggerated motion to cover herself and be decent.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There seems to be a recurring problem.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

Even ChatGPT predicts another crash in that same location!

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yall ever think about this is what it takes for a life altering car crash to even make the news anymore yet news will happily report about people's feelings about crime rates even as crime rates have been way down for decades?

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Crashception

[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

That poor person's neck lmao

[–] SenatorCollins@aussie.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, that’s not very typical. I’d like to make that point.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Crashception

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was hoping it was an area in LA I knew, but nah. I've seen a ton of close calls with emergency vehicles though, distracted driving seems worse than ever but what I don't get is how they don't hear the sirens. Are vehicles more sound insulated now or something?

[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, if you lay down on your horn, it's barely an inconvenience to you, but it is loud as fuck to everyone else outside the car. Besides, people are usually listening to song/podcasts as well

[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

https://www.cnu.org/publicsquare/2024/06/05/exposing-pseudoscience-traffic-engineering

A good follow on Mastodon about traffic design

@drtcombs@triangletoot.party