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Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Philadelphia’s DA have warned troops they’ll face charges that Trump can’t save them from if they violate residents.

As Donald Trump floats expanding his authoritarian military crackdown to liberal-led cities beyond the nation’s capital, troops deployed to carry out his anti-democratic schemes might be at risk of prosecution themselves — and the pardon-happy president may not be able to save them.

Thus far, by my count, two Democrats in states that may find themselves targeted have vowed to spur local or state prosecutions — which couldn’t be overturned with a presidential pardon — for anyone who violate residents’ rights if and when the Trump administration expands its troop deployment.

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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The instant boots touch the ground they are in violation of posse comitatus.

Arrest them all for treason and treat them as traitors were treated when it fucking meant something.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Kudos to Gov Pritzker.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pritzker should dispatch Illinois National Guard to shadow each out-of-state Guard member, 1:1, all with body cams streaming online

Wonder if after a few transgressions he can declare them a terrorist organization.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Open carry is illegal in IL.

“911? There’s people walking around with rifles.”

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

Masked people.

911 every time.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

When the tit for tat gets up & going, someone please do something a little more proactive than saying you aren’t welcome here and we are going to use the system you won’t recognize against you. Glad I brought some heavy duty summer fold out chairs. Let’s see what September brings. I miss the days when we despised people for their College & NFL preferences come football time.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah this reeks of "we're gonna keep a list of all the things you fascists break while you're invading us"

ooook well that's scary, anything but paperwork

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

Believe me you, I am not happy about said occupation. I’m just not happy with the “We’re not on board with this” group. I wanna be part of the plan. I don’t live in Chicago. That isn’t important. Or else we’re gonna do it,,,,, wait a second. Hang on a moment. I dunno what we were talking about but yeah hopefully none of that bullshit is around any of ya’s. However, if need B. Slice, twist, shake & muddle. You know what to do.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Good. If we cannot get the felon in chief, let's start going after those that are carrying out his criminal activities.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They should start with whoever gave the order to murder 11 people off the coast of Venezuela. And then work their way down to everyone who chose to follow that order.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think that's a state-level crime.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea, that was a war crime.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it a war crime? There's no declared war. I think it's just a regular murder in international waters. I think the boat was registered in Venezuela so they should bring charges against Trump and whoever fired the shot/missile that did it.

When a murder occurs on the high seas, the primary basis for legal authority is “flag state jurisdiction.” Under international law, a ship is governed by the laws of the country where it is registered, known as the flag state. Article 92 of UNCLOS establishes that a ship on the high seas is subject to the exclusive jurisdiction of its flag state. The vessel is treated as a piece of that nation’s territory.

Other legal principles can create overlapping jurisdictional claims. The “nationality principle” allows the country of which the alleged perpetrator is a citizen to assert jurisdiction, regardless of where the crime took place. This means a country may have laws allowing it to prosecute its nationals for serious crimes committed abroad.

Another basis for jurisdiction is the “passive personality principle,” which allows the victim’s country of citizenship to claim the right to prosecute. This principle was asserted by the United States following the 1985 hijacking of the Italian cruise ship Achille Lauro, where an American citizen was murdered. Even though the crime occurred on an Italian-flagged vessel, the U.S. asserted its right to prosecute the perpetrators.

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

War crimes also included deliberate attacks on citizens and property of neutral states, such as the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. As the attack on Pearl Harbor happened while the U.S. and Japan were at peace and without a just cause for self-defense, the attack was declared by the Tokyo Trials to go beyond justification of military necessity and therefore constituted a war crime.

Yeah it was a war crime. The US and Venezuela are at peace and there was no just cause for self defense.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

Rubio will be the scapegoat for that one

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly what they should do.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago

It is among the things they should do.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Do or do not. There is no "threaten".

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

They have to commit the crimes before you can arrest them. He's saying if you do get deployed in Chicago don't fuck around or we'll hold you accountable. Yeah, have to actually see follow through, but this is more of a warning shot

They should.

[–] it_depends_man@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They threaten to apply the law that's supposed to be applied to everyone equally anyway?

I'm sure they're shaking in their boots, if that's a threat and not just... normality.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 11 points 3 days ago

This is surely just a reminder that state law will still apply no matter what the orange idiot does. You can still use the reminder that normal laws will apply as a threat.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I get that things are concerning and stressful right now, but read the thing and think about it - they have to actually commit a criminal act to get arrested. He's trying to head them off from doing it before it happens. The governor of California didn't say something like this, but the governor of Illinois is saying it.

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