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[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 70 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

I'm a farmer. I warned my neighbors. I've had two hardcore trumpers walk up to me nowon two separate occasions now and tell me to my face "you were right"

I took no victory lap when either of them admitted it. The fact they admitted it was mind-blowing in and of itself. I didnt think they could ever be broken to admit it.

My response, "we've got three more years of this bullshit".

We're all in this together. But now you fucking understand.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 3 points 48 minutes ago

LOOOOL you think he is leaving in three years??

....the only way that piece of shit is leaving the white house is feet first

[–] DamnianWayne@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago

“we’ve got three more years of this bullshit”.

An optimist?

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 40 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly I don't think they actually understand. Ask them who they plan to vote for in the mid-terms.

If they truly understand then they should never utter the word Republican for the rest of their lives.

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago

You are probably right. But from personal experience with both of the people who admitted they were wrong, the huge dose of humble pie they ate to ever admit to me, that's takes real effort. One sees it in his pocketbook. He may forget. The other sees it after a solid dozen of his employees have been deported after ice raids. He's hurting in his pocketbook and in the personal relationships he has built with his employees.

To be fair I've told these people that all farmers should be voting dem across the board, quite militantly, for years now. But guns and "Jesus" made them think I was a madman. I know and understand who's blood and sweat our tiny world is built on,and finally they are starting to understand it. I hope it is a lesson that sticks. I'll be doing my damned best to make sure it does.

These are people that have fallen for propaganda. Decades of it. They aren't bad. They are just stupid for not paying attention. We can fix that. Call it out but please don't forget your empathy. I'm having a hard enough time as it is.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They'll pull another W. Bush era "republicans got us into this mess so we're voting them back in so they have to fix it". I still can't believe how stupid Americans are.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 2 points 44 minutes ago

I still can’t believe how stupid Americans are.

believe it, never forget that the fascists are 'stupid' for the same reasons that nigerian prince emails are full of spelling and grammar mistakes

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah they should have learned after his last term. There is no hope.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

But will they vote for a Democrat next time? I hope so, but the cynic in me says fuck no they won't.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Mark my words, Democrats will make it so tempting to not vote for them.

They will find a way.

[–] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm already getting blasted with ads for the heir apparent to replace Beto here in Texas. Some baby faced compromise that the Texas DNC has picked because of the fucking algorithm or something. Useless bastards all of them. All the Dems in deep red that I know are watching with waited breath for mamdami to win so we can use it as an actual example of what real policy ideals and 'fuck the DNC' effort can be. It's a thousand miles away but that's what we fucking need to show that these basic ass milquetoast candidates don't work. Ann Richards hasn't been relevant for thirty years but they keep trying the same goddamn thing. Fingers crossed they figure it out eventually.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

They're not gonna figure it out because their paycheck depends on it. The DNC — the entire party establishment — needs to have the baby thrown out with the bathwater if the average American has any hope of legitimate opposition to corporate dictatorship.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The situation echoes the 2018-2020 trade war, during which U.S. agriculture lost $26 billion, with nearly $20 billion in soybean losses alone. Soybeans accounted for 71% of agricultural losses experienced by American farmers during that earlier conflict.

Despite acknowledging that he believes Trump “loves farmers” and is “trying to do what’s right for this country,” he emphasized the need for immediate action: “We gotta make sure that we survive through these tough times.”

Friends... nothing is changing.

China's smart to redirect purchases to Brazil so aggressively. If they want to create political pressure, it's effective... But I think they underestimate political loyalty to whatever Trump's doing these days.


CCP, if you're reading this, go after the rich guys' pockets. Trust me, that will create pressure overnight.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 27 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

How do you fall for this twice, when he continues to hype the same exact ideas that caused this exact same thing to happen to eg exact same farmers in his first term

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

To be fair, it was unimaginably stupid the first time too.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 56 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty upset about it. I really don't like seeing fields of rotting crops, and I don't want all the farms sold to mega agrocorps

It's like an idiot ignoring your warnings and losing a finger. It just doesn't feel good, and now there's blood everywhere, and they're not going to be the one cleaning it up

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

You're absolutely right, it DOESN'T feel good to see so many people getting fucked like this. We SHOULDN'T have to see this in our lifetimes. We're SUPPOSED to be better than this.

But in this day and age, in this absolute clusterfucked circus of a timeline, some people are just so goddamn stupid, so deeply indoctrinated, and stubborn, and hateful, and all the other things we associate with modern Republican voters, that the unfortunate truth is that trying to talk to these people, and warn them of the consequences of their actions, just doesn't work anymore. They don't wanna hear it, and should you try to tell them, they either legitimately don't understand, don't give 2 shits, actively want it, or some combo of all 3 and more.

And so the only option we have left is letting the idiot blow off his fingers with the firecrackers, while trying to contain the fallout, because at this point they simply will not learn, otherwise. It's awful, and terrible, and a nasty way to deal with it, but when the people we're trying to help and save are so adversarial towards anyone trying to help them... all you can do is wait for them to come to you.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 hours ago

if the idiot in question got your fingers cut off as well as theirs, I would take some pleasure in their pain. I'm not proud of that. it's very corrosive, and it's not good for my soul. but... it quenches my anger, somewhat. :/

[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Are trans-farmers a thing? Are they more than meets the eyes?

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

Trans farmers, Robert's in disguise.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Oh they're more than meets the eyes alright 😏

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

There are actually a lot of democrat farmers. Most of their polls get really poorly represented by being lumped in with Agriculture Industry as a whole.

[–] ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world 80 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (19 children)

Trump’s goal was always to smash small businesses and prop up large corporations. Just because someone has the same racism and xenophobia as you, does not mean they are your ally. Maybe someday these idiots will stop letting themselves be manipulated by culture war issues, and realize the economic and legal policy is what’s important. It’s harder to understand, but it’s what actually affects your life.

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[–] linkshandig@lemmy.today 57 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Who do you think is going to buy up all the farms on the cheap? This is bad for all of us

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 30 points 14 hours ago

Supposedly couch boy vance himself who is said to have shares in a company for distressed business. Directly profiting.

https://civileats.com/2024/09/18/jd-vance-invested-in-acretrader-heres-why-that-matters/

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 11 points 15 hours ago

If only there were signs 😞

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 34 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 24 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

My tears are for those of us who either voted against it or didn't get a choice (i.e. the rest of the world). Everyone else can use their own tears for lube while we're all fucked.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Listen: That's where our food comes from.

[–] OldChicoAle@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

I'm tired of farmers holding us hostage with this rhetoric.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

This calls for a change of diet: eat the rich.

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't feel bad for those immorally underpaying and abusing the desperate and undocumented (maybe the vast majority of them?), but I kinda do for those who weren't. It's not so black and white, sometimes people are just more stupid than they are evil and fall for low level propaganda. We should strive to build a world that's a bit more foolproof, IMO.

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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 21 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, funny, until the food disappears.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 hours ago

Nobody will be laughing once there's no food.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Farmers: I'll still vote for Trump every opportunity I get.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

They’ll be out in great numbers, sporting their cult gear to vote for dump a third time.

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