Remember the public outcry when couple of Dems got shot? Me neither

Sorry to hear your mother is toxic and unintelligent.

Then she was like “no no no you got it all wrong he was giving a speech when someone asked him if more people die from gang shootings or school shootings, then he was shot” even though the thing I was talking about was from 2023.

Conservatives have absolutely no long term memory. They're completely ignorant of any history that doesn't prove their immediate point.

Facts don't matter to someone like this. She's having emotions. That's the level you need to work on. She probably feels threatened, and like her in-group is under attack. You'd need to get her to see you as in-group before she'll listen.

We're all emotional creatures, but some people seem exclusively so.

Oh dont worry. EVERYONE irl i know is freaking out over this. I just ask. What about the 3 children that were shot in Denver? Do they not matter compared to this person?

These are the same people that asked why I didn't care when James Dobson kicked it. Horrible human.

The media is so damn bought and paid for i cant believe they cant see it.

From this story it sounds lile your mom is both an idiot and a bad person. Sorry you have to deal with that.

Your mum is a fascist. Ask her if she'd have voted for Hitler during the Holocaust.

Her answer is probably denial.

Ask her if she would have voted for Netanyahu killing Gaza kids in a holocaust 2.0.

She'll prolly deny saying it's a different thing. She needs to be taken to a mass grave and see the actual skulls, the rotting bodies, to see the impact of her wretched hatred.

You should be pissed at her for failing to agree with you that Charlie Kirk was a nazi piece of shit who had it coming.

He spoke out against the woke people... Ugh.

"Let’s get something straight: if being woke means caring about the well-being of others, challenging systems of oppression, and striving to make the world a kinder place, then we are unapologetically woke. Let the critics sneer. Let them turn “woke” into a punchline. Their disdain for compassion only underscores the necessity of staying true to its core values."

https://thezeitgeistonline.substack.com/p/we-will-always-be-proudly-woke-if

They changed Charlies pronouns on Wikipedia to was/were.

Sorry about your mum. Have my remote empathy and compassion

I got ostracized and banned from a discord server for expressing exactly what you did. People are so caught up in the fact he got shot that they're not willing to look at the bigger picture of who he was and the horrible shit he is responsible for.

That's her problem not yours

At least you can agree now that there was a good moment in his life, too.

I'm so sorry your mum isn't able to give your feelings the space and respect they deserve. You're completely right. And fact is undeniable, he didn't deserve anything, other than what he advocated for all his life. Also your mum is probably just grieving or feeling socialitically pressured to grieve. How your mum is feeling can be entirely separated from the person she's feeling that for. Don't address the person she's grieving but maybe you can offer her kindness for her feelings, which, I'm assuming would be adulting beyond your developed years. Put clear boundaries down that you aren't changing your opinion on the subject, nor do you want to speak of it, but you care about how she feels. Because people's feelings matter, regardless of whether they're perceived by others as being about unreasonable things, and maybe that will help her learn to be more emotionally supportive, at very least, it'll set a good boundary for you and how you expect her to treat your feelings in future. My mum is a bit like yours, I've never found a good balance, and I can barely speak to her, and I've had many many years of no contact at all, it's hard to go through, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but sometimes that's the path you end up on, after exhausting all options available at the time. I hope you're able to find a way to co-exist, more peacefully than I was able.

It’s ok some people are dumb. I have family members that funcking stupid.

Another family member lost to fox news propaganda

Such a good point. My family has been having the conversation about why this is suddenly becoming a thing , more than other murders, and clearly we haven’t been paying attention to the toxic culture of hatred, divisiveness, outrage. I suppose he had the right to his opinion but we’d all be better off if we didn’t listen to it. Anyway, the Wikipedia entry paints him as a vile human being who helped stoke the flames of our society causing harm to many. I’ll have empathy for his family’s loss but the world seems better off

Hit her with all the memes of his quotes.

Flowers cannot agree. *mom

The blanking you is an issue. Letting stuff like this divide your family is unhealthy and maybe you need to chat with her and point this out. She has a right to her opinion. You yours. Arguing over who is right and who is wrong gets you no where. If you want to change her option maybe conversation or debate. I know it’s hard in some instances but I do believe it’s the best tool in the face of misinformation. It’s a far better tool than emotionally blanking someone.

None of the variations of "woke" have ever been a bad thing to be.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. A lot of older people are telling me they learned about Kirk today from the news. American News Media^TM^ are actively whitewashing him, just look up how they're talking about him on CNN, CBS, MSNBC, etc. They're making him seem like a political icon to GenZ/Gen alpha who likes to debate and "play devils advocate", instead of the architect of his own demise.

Charlie said empathy is for cucks. MFW your mom spits on his legacy