Legally, you own a disc, and a limited license to view the contents of the disc.

It's effectively full ownership, but this same "limited license" model is how they fuck you over digitally, because without the disc, they can, at any time, revoke that limited license legally, because it was limited and they never granted full ownership. This is why the legality of pirating a movie you already own on Blu-ray is morally correct but legally wrong, because your license only grants you that one disc, in that one format.

I fucking hate it. The fact we dont have better property laws for media and IP is insane.

With the obvious caveat that IANAL, I think there's a distinction to be made between the physical medium that an IP is distributed on, if any, and the IP itself. Like, when you buy a movie on DVD you obviously don't own the IP. But strictly speaking, you don't even own that particular copy of the movie as encoded on the disc you bought. But you do own the disc itself, which just happens to have a copy of the movie on it. So while a publisher can always pull their IPs, and make it illegal for people to distribute them, they can't come and take the discs that you already legally own.

This isn’t entirely true and more so for Blu-ray disks. You own the physical media along with a temporary, limited license to watch the film on the media. That license is revocable and, technically, can be removed in the case of the publisher no longer being authorized to distribute licenses. It hasn’t really happened yet but Blu-ray players, as part of the spec, can connect to the internet to verify their licenses. If they wanted to, Sony could make your Blu-ray disks worthless if all your players follow the spec correctly. If you have a standalone drive or a drive hooked up to a computer that doesn’t fully follow the spec, you can copy the film from the media but you’d be breaking the law in most places for exactly the reason you’ve stated - breaking the encryption is illegal.

So there is a “license” with a DVD. It’s just far less enforceable than it is on a system where there’s no physical portion of the media for them to take away.

Using tools to break the encryption for backup purposes is legal in the US, but distributing tools to do so is not legal because the tools can be used for non-backup purposes.

if there are any features that are live based they have full rights to deactivate those

Didn't know this one...

There is no “license” with a DVD.

But Sony had a license to produce and sell that DVD, right?

I think OP specifically references it in the post

Hey Ada! Sorry to bother you, but I don't know how to message off-Kbin accounts. There seems to be a spammer or bot or something using a blahaj.zone account.

https://kbin.social/u/@mymy@lemmy.blahaj.zone

Just strings of unrelated words and image links.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

If you're buying a license to stream 'until x time' then Sony should make that really fucking clear to the consumer.

It has done for many years

It always has.

If they delete a users ability to use something they paid for, you can still absolutely blame Sony, unless it comes with a refund

Not accurate at all. If I buy a Blu-ray or a DVD that can't be taken away from me... But if I "buy" a movie online (namely from a streaming service) my access to it can be removed at their discretion. It's happened plenty before, and as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, is happening again on PlayStation.