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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 58 points 6 days ago (5 children)

The fucking state of Virginia is calling for a moment of silence over this guy. What the hell is going on?

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (11 children)

And to bury the Epstein birthday book. Did anyone realize that the emails between Maxwell and Epstein were released yesterday?

https://www.newsweek.com/epstein-emails-private-account-2128274

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.

Welp.

The article also doesn't mention those communications implicating anyone (alive) other than Maxwell, which isn't nothing, but definitely not the illumination people were hoping for, I don't think.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

You're right, you made me dig a little further.

Edit: Here is one of the mentions of Trump:

Trump’s name surfaced again around the time Epstein was making an intense backchannel lobbying effort to get federal prosecutors to drop their case against him. It was in an email dated Aug. 23, 2007, a month before Epstein signed the non-prosecution agreement with the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida that ended the federal component of the Epstein investigation.

The emails indicate that Maxwell may have been referring to a team of reporters covering Epstein who she expected would be seeking information from Trump; from Abe Gosman, the late healthcare magnate whose palatial property sold to Trump for $41 million after a heated bidding war with Epstein; from court documents in West Palm Beach; and from Joel Pashcow, the Palm Beach police and fire foundation board member who’d traveled on Epstein’s private jet. Pashcow did not respond to a request for comment.

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-ghislaine-maxwell/

Here is what is on Prince Andrew:

The unsealed documents released Thursday also contain allegations that Jane Doe 3 — whose allegations match those of Giuffre — was "forced" to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew on Epstein’s private island in what was described as "an orgy" with numerous other under-aged girls. It does not specify the year. The woman was allegedly instructed by Epstein to "give the Prince whatever he demanded" and "report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unsealed-documents-show-epstein-maxwell-correspondence-2015-n1235307

The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 36 points 6 days ago

They're martyrizing him. Goal is probably civil war and trans genocide.

[–] philosloppy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

the far-right establishment behind the Trump administration is preparing to use this as the justification for the incoming Reichstagsbrandverordnung.

They've got their van der Lubbe now and they're working to get their bullshit in before Nov 2026

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Bigots, racists, liars, and stochastic terrorists are the rights idols. That is what is going on.

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[–] jmsy@lemmy.world 67 points 6 days ago (4 children)

The last time I checked, and fuck me if I'm wrong, the NFL has several black athletes. What did kirk say about black people?

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 82 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Calling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a "huge mistake"

Describing Martin Luther King Jr. as "awful" and "not a good person"

Stated "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to think, 'I hope he's qualified'"

Claimed successful Black women like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson were "affirmative action picks" who "do not possess the cognitive capacity to be taken seriously"

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The league only cares about black athletes to the degree that it can profit off their performance.

Case in point: Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem -- which was honestly an extremely mild form of protest -- and was immediately black-balled.

If they do care about black athletes, they clearly care about money a lot more.

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[–] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 days ago

Remind me who the owners... wait, don't. Let's just look at a picture of the owners of the nfl.

Then think about how 'just' their presentation goes. Compare the owner and the 'peripheral' employees. There's a better picture that I can't find that is often used in sociology classes, where the owner of a team is in the presence of the cheerleaders and the players, and it can't be beat for showing that if you're a rich man wanting slaves and concubines, owning a team is pretty much the next best thing.

The sports associations are fucked.

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[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Me waking yesterday with no memory of whomst I was.

I am very sick.

[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This doesn't matter at all. Release the Epstein files.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

We need justice and closure for the survivors. That's why the files need to be released.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 69 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Got orders at work today to lower our flag to half staff in his honor. No mention of 9-11. This is a public school district :(

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Too bad the wires are malfunctioning and the message never arrived

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Also some damn kids tied knots in the flagpole rope, so that's gonna take a few days to fix

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

every time i try to have a moment of silence for charlie kirk i end to giggling because that stupid fuck is in hell

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Unfortunately, there is no hell. We need to make sure horrible people get their comeuppance here, on earth.

Since it looks like he died near instantly, with no time to reflect on the damage he’d wrought, he basically escaped justice. On the plus side, he can’t do more damage. On the far larger negative side, he’s a martyr now.

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[–] Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Boycott the NFL if you like American style football just watch Canadian or Australian football or even rugby they are all close enough and in some cases like Australian football I would say are better

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you suggest this to a Canadian they'll rip out your spine, they could never give up hockey or seal clubbing.

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[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

To quote Marilyn Manson:

"If you die when there's no one watching,

then your ratings drop and you're forgotten.

But if they kill you on their TV,

You're a martyr and a Lamb Of God. "

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

It's not like I can boycott their garbage any more than I already do.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Man would I get my ass kicked once I started up my “CHARLIE KIRK’S IN HELL clap clap clapclapclap” chant during the moment of silence.

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago

It's all pop culture and social trend... Life's not about being an actual decent human being for most people.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I said they weren't gonna, and they didn't. We got a big ol flag display outside town, the towns proud of it. It goes to half staff when appropriate. It did not fly half staff yesterday.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

None of those people mattered, duh.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

US sports (except maybe basketball) are very right-wing. I don't think they actually care one way or the other, but their audience is mostly boys and men, and boys and men are right wing these days, so the sports cater to that audience.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I have a good time watching the game but the commercials make me wince.

The salute the troops makes me gag.

The nationalism disguised as patriotism … it’s honestly getting to be too much.

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[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I imagine people won’t like to hear it, but there’s no denying that major sports teams rely on the same “in-group/out-group” dynamic that fascism relies on.

It may be a more benign form (for the most part), but the whole “my sports team is better than yours!” Is definitely tribalistic in nature. It’s not surprising to me that many die-hard fans may revel in arbitrary social divisions in other facets of their lives.

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[–] livejamie@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago (9 children)

It will likely happen before every football game this weekend.

Fox News will then publish a pearl-clutching compilation of people booing at college football games, and Trump will use that to justify defunding those institutions further.

i have a suggestion, and that's that everyone going to one of these events, cue up Entry of the Gladiators by Julius Fucik, have multiple copies downloaded on your phone ready to go at whatever public event you're at ready for that jackass' moment of silence, and blare it out your phone. count down one two three then whoever's ready plays at full volume. drown the motherfucker out.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

The information on the tiny amount of epstein files released might be titillating but the real meat and potatoes is in the rest of the huge mountain of information that they did not release.

[–] frankpsy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I saw an electronic billboard yesterday on the road that said "In Rememberance Today" or something like that and started getting angry thinking they were talking about Charlie Kirk but then I'm like, oh damn, I done forgot...

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