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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37698883

  • Twitch now requires facial age verification to watch mature content in some regions using video selfies processed on your device.
  • The system uses k-ID technology and targets gambling streams and other 18+ content to comply with new online safety laws.
  • Users must scan their face to access restricted streams with many expressing privacy concerns about the new requirement.
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[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you're handsome enough, your face was always the key to unlocking hot tub content!

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Giga Chad has entered the chat

[–] Setheck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can't you just ai generate a face?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

if you can make a rotatable 3D model of it..

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Norman Reedus in Death Stranding 2 comes to save the day!

It's so hilarious that they never considered that part of the same tech they use to recognize a face is also used to create virtual ones so these work arounds work incredibly well.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah but I wonder how aren't they recognizing it that thousands of people have the same face. do they just not care?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because that's not what it looks for and there is likely no human review of anything. It just looks to make sure it matches being a human face, and pretty much just by shape and lighting.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok but that seems to fall into the they don't care category. surely they could run a facial recognition algorithm on the faces and store some kind of a hash for anomaly detection. hell public transport companies are storing travel history for years for the purpose of cheating detection and they get away with it, no way a serious thing like this wouldn't do that

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most of these things are being scrambled to put in place due to new laws being passed. They are literally doing the bare minimum to comply while also being able to collect even more data than they were previously. They don't actually care about keeping kids away from adult content; they want pictures of your face associated with your social media accounts so they can control you. A few smart people working around it right now isn't an issue for them. They won't care until those are the only people left who haven't uploaded their face.

maybe gmod will be more useful. They'll have a massive dataset of dr.breen face scan trying to goon.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Still sound like a really bad idea for that list to exist at all.
We've had more than enough persecuting the bath tub users
we must stop this vicious anti-privacy movement

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 126 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Every single mainstream digital platform on the internet has gone to shit. Streaming, shopping, video/music platforms, social media, creative tools, web search, you name it. I'm tired of it.

The relentless pursuit of profit and growth ruins absolutely everything it touches. Capitalist rot.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 72 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yes, but this particular abusive feature is a result of misguided legislation, not profit-seeking.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That's usually the same thing with a different color of lube.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm getting real tired of all this capitalist apologism, as though they don't own our political class and aren't directly behind both de-anonimization and anti-encryption leglislation.

All you have to do is follow the fucking money and power behind surveillance capitalism.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You guys are getting lube??

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I just saw the guy from that meme in death of a unicorn.

Not really significant I just felt like sharing

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[–] suzucappo@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago

I think at this point we should stop calling things like this misguided. They aren't.

It is a global effort by the ultra wealthy to instill fear and control in the majority populace of the world... The working class.

These measures are calculated to dissuade people from even attempting to rise up against the system out of an abundance of fear, designed to keep them in control as long as possible while they rape the planet and people of its resources, happiness and strength to fight. All so they can continue doing whatever they want because they likely won't be alive long enough to see the long term effects.

Do I believe there is an inkling of good in there, sure but that little bit of good is from the under/uneducated populace that probably really do have good intentions when voting for these things. These people likely have no understanding of the underlying amount of data that is being collected on them and everyone else.

Just like me typing up this response, it's probably being recorded somewhere other than on these instances and being parsed by some computer scanning the internet for discontent and trying to tie it to anything it can in regards to a physical person.

The goal is maximum control. The only people that are misguided are the ones voting for these things that don't understand the ramifications. The ones that don't care and/or are in a position of power are not misguided.

You know where we should start, the Epstein files. They don't want to do that though because it would disrupt a lot the ruling class from retaining power and expose the fact that these things that are happening behind closed doors are tied to them more than the working class. There would be worldwide repercussions.

It's not just about human trafficking and accessing adult content. It's about war, the environment, money, and control.

The fear (in the ruling class) is starting to show, just a little bit. The cracks are forming, but the more influence they have over the uneducated helps them to maintain power. The world needs to keep the pressure on and let the ruling class know that we don't stand for this.

The American government and corporations are a massive part of the problem. I say that as an American. I've never voted for the orange dildo and from day one have been openly opposed to him and probably 80% of the people in power. That being said, this is also a global effort. It's not just happening here, we just have the biggest incompetent mouthpieces in the world.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

You are right, but I bet they can monetize this somehow or at least exploit it for their own interests

[–] tal@olio.cafe 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

The relentless pursuit of profit and growth ruins absolutely everything it touches. Capitalist rot.

The factor driving age verification has been laws passed by countries. It's not private industry forcing it, but government. That comes from people complaining to their legislators that they are unhappy that their kids can see online.

If you want a communist system, fine. But there are far too many users on here who, when faced with virtually anything they don't like, immediately post a screed complaining about ownership of private industry, when it often has absolutely nothing to do with the actual issue at hand.

EDIT: I'd also add that there are actual solutions if you object to something like this. You can pass a law against biometric-based age validation, which I can certainly understand


that form could be prohibited. You could have some alternative form of age-based validation to be instituted to create a path of least resistance for services, like having government provide and fund a zero-knowledge service to confirm various facts to services like age. In countries which have constitutional law and a higher bar to modify it than lower law, you could pass a constitutional law against any form of age validation ("ageism has no place in our country") to prevent legislators from easily passing things like age verification laws, which I personally don't think will fly politically in most places, but it's at least one theoretical option.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

you could pass a constitutional law against any form of age validation ("ageism has no place in our country")

you are conflating things. age validation does not equal ageism. age validation does not solve age restriction because a validated user account can be handed over to a kid, or taken over by them in secret. the parents that can't be assed to take care of their children won't keep their smartphone safe either, because that's inconvenient and takes time and attention

[–] black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

The fusion of capitalist and state power behind a racially supremacist ideology is the core of fascism. Communism is not the only alternative to fascism or capitalism

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

facial verification

And I'm out, don't care if it's twitch, or a government website.

Your biometric data is something you can't change (not easily anyways), do not ever give it to anyone

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's actually pretty easy to burn your fingerprints off or disfigure your face. It's just also painful.

[–] Konstant@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

So.. not easy.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 44 points 2 days ago

Do not scan your faces.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 days ago

People should spam this service with ai generated photos.

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Twitch is probably one of the LAST companies I would trust with storing any sort of ID in safety. Remember all the leaks that happened with them? like the time they leaked what EVERY stream makes off the site? no thanks.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

amazon owns twitch, so they might want that data too.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think they use a third party for the verification part

Not that that’s any better

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Using OBS's virtual camera and sharing a n image or video of some older person is gonna become a thing...

If I were forced to I would consider doing that before allowing the webpage to see my actual face wtf.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 36 points 3 days ago

Give it two weeks and someone will have created a program specifically titled "Twitter Face Bypass" or something

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago

I feel, at 50, if a site wants my face, the site does not want my traffic

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People are already just pointing their phone camera at their monitor.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

In the context of twitch I never thought of a phone... I guess I'm too much of a filthy gamer.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago

People are already using gmods face poser to bypass this shit.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Do not do this FFS.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

feel like it's gonna come out all of the supporters of the anti porn age gating bills all had stake in the facial recognition and identity verification companies.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

I would bet money you're 100% correct.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 12 points 2 days ago

Just deleted my account. Pure scum.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well the good news is that this will inevitably spawn an open-source tool that perfectly bypasses these “age verification” systems. They targeted gamers.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

People're already getting around shit with GMod.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What happens if your face gets burned or mauled by a bear? You just get locked out of mature streams?

[–] rozodru@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

there was a story from the UK a month or so ago about a guy who has his face tattooed, he can't get verified for anything.

So yes, if you have a facial deformity or tattoos all over your face I imagine you're shit out of luck. Severe burn victim? no Internet for you.

[–] Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

All according to plan

[–] HeadfullofSoup@kbin.earth 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So much fake face app are going to appear people already do it with a game ( don’t remember what game ) but they use the avatar face to bypass the face check

[–] Runaway@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It was Norman Reedus from Death Stranding 2.

[–] OhtoAiReal@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've also seen it done using Dr. Breen in Garry's Mod. They've just encouraged people to learn Blender or have your privacy violated.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago

I like to think that he's proud of people doing it

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Not that I was making or watching those but the requirement itself is definitely something I want nothing to do with. Thanks for reminding me to delete my account, I've been meaning to do so for months now but always forgot to. One more thing off the list.

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