Fediverse memes
Memes about the Fediverse.
Rules
General
- Be respectful
- Post on topic
- No bigotry or hate speech
Specific
- We are not YPTB. If you have a problem with the way an instance or community is run, then take it up over at !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com.
- Addendum: Yes we know that you think ml/hexbear/grad are tankies and or .world are a bunch of liberals but it gets old quickly. Try and come up with new material.
Elsewhere in the Fediverse
Other relevant communities:
- !fediverse@lemmy.world
- !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com
- !lemmydrama@lemmy.world
- !fediverselore@lemmy.ca
- !bestofthefediverse@lemmy.ca
- !fedigrow@lemmy.zip
I have a plan for fixing things.
We all just cum into the ocean, every day, so much cum. Problem solved.
Seems the OOP is fake. I just checked through the Wikipedia page and can't find where it says that
The fuck is a den of iniquity? Stop throwing big words at me nerd.
den of iniquity noun phrase
a place where immoral or illegal things are done
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/den%20of%20iniquity
Where can I get my immoral or illegal things?
I suspect most of those are in mastodon instances
Maybe those adjectives don't fit most stuff in the community, but you can definitely buy here ...things : !buyselltrade@lemmy.sdf.org
Has any deal on that community actually gone through?
“THAT SENTENCE HAS TOO MANY WORDS IN IT. APOLOGIZE!” – Mr. Torgue
The mistake here is misunderstanding "fediverse" as one place.
It is multiple places, where not all of them are connected to all of the others.
Calling "the fediverse" a den of iniquity is like calling WWW the same thing. Are there awful fucking places on the open web? Absolutely, but that doesn't make all of it awful.
But it's what makes the FediVerse fun
Wasn't there a post here a while back about how half the people here are only here because they were too toxic to be anywhere else? If I'm not remembering wrong, I feel like that post could be relevant.
Anyway, I read the entry from the original post and it's not entirely wrong, thought it definitely depends on the instance you use. Still, some of it is pretty damning for the concept as a whole. Hopefully some standard health/safety features become the norm.
There have been MANY such posts. Here's one of them: https://dubvee.org/post/dubvee.org/3334313. Here's another. And another - seriously there are whole entire communities dedicated to just the tankie subtopic underneath the wider one of toxicity as a whole, such as !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works.
It certainly tests the logistics of defederation when a user, such as tankies, just make an account in another instance to continue trolling
This is true of many reddit alternatives unfortunately. A large portion of the first-wave are going to include a lot people banned from everywhere else.
In fairness, the biggest single wave of new users here game from the Reddit API change killing 3rd party apps two years ago. Though unsure how many stuck around from then, but at least there was a large group of people coming here voluntarily rather than ban evading.
I'm still here, three accounts deep now.
Still here! Have never been banned, not so much as received a warning from anywhere. I’m sure there’s a silent majority of us who look at some the toxicity on here like 👀
Yeah I was speaking generally, not specifically to the Fediverse. I don't really observe it as uniquely worse than Reddit at all.
I tried two reddit alternatives before I came to the Fediverse, and unfortunately there were amongst the intake - a lot of maladaptives.
yup, don’t need to be banned by reddit (although I’m sure I would have been by now), just have to have some goddamned principles.
I'm in that group, so there's at least 1 that stuck around
That was the first big wave, but lemmy was already somewhat active. Previously lemmy was used by the tankies. Hexbear also existed before the api migration, their sub was banned from reddit previously.
I used to have an account on raddle, a similar alternative, the 2 biggest sub there were about anarchism and shoplifting.
The non fediverse reddit clones were VERRY tocic. But we are not.
There are definitely fediverse instances that are toxic. An average fediverse user won't see them because most of the big instances have defederated those toxic instances.
Not true: Lemm.ee famously did not defederate from most instances including hexbear.net, and likewise take a look at how short the blocklist is on Lemmy.zip. And mander.xyz only blocks Threads and literally nothing else (at least, not at the entire instance level where it would show up in their blocklist).
Exploding-heads was defederated from almost everywhere, but also it imploded all on its own independently (tbf, after the waves of defederations).
Anyway, Lemm.ee was pretty huge - wasn't it the #2 instance after lemmy.world? - and lemmy.zip is fairly large as well.
half the people here are only here because they were too toxic to be anywhere else?
This is an obvious generalization that is in no way verifiable with any level of quality, right? This is that classic bias from loudest most visible nuisances(not the correct name for it, but I feel it's good enough)
At the end of the day, toxic users are the way they are due to a relationship with attention. So long as we are the little guy who's focused on interest-driven communities, toxic users will not feel welcome here by default.
Looking at instances such as Hexbear and lemmygrad.ml... are they wrong though? And many other instances have given Hexbear a platform to promote and host i.e. spread their content across the wide Fediverse.
We are a tankie bar, plain and simple. Yes you can block it, but most instances have not historically gone very far in that regard, from the perspective of a new Reddit refugee, e.g. a centrist, religious, American who may not like what is going on but also is put off by calls for things such as outright murder.
If we want to expand, we need to get better at labeling the spaces so as to make people with a wider (aka more diverse) set of backgrounds comfortable here. We won't though, instead preferring to simply claim that everything that "in-group" says is correct (and often not allowed to be questioned, though mod & admin tolerances varies wildly) and everything that "out-group" says is 100% wrong and everyone is "stupid" for believing such.
My only issue with this is that a 'centrist, religious, american' is never going to put the necessary effort to even gaze outside the labyrinth of walled-gardens. So you're hoping to cater to the very demographic that is the last to ever find visibility of such a platform
Edit: Install Gentoo
It's fine if they never come here... but in that case can we be surprised when they lack an understanding of how it works and, seeing e.g. Chapotraphouse@hexbear.net, Lemmygrad.ml, perhaps even places that pretty much every respectable instance owner defederates from, then calls this place a horrid cesspool of toxicity?
That's also what people call us on r/Redditalternatives btw. Look up the tankie associations with the very name of Lemmy itself - not the software, but the actual name.
Or if we don't care about people coming here, or anyone else's opinion (especially uninformed), then why does this post exist in the first place? So perhaps we do care then, even if only a little?
I just wanted us to push ourselves to be more self reflective and honest about who we are. Whatever that ends up meaning, I don't even fully know.
We are a den of iniquity. I wish Blahaj would defederate lemmy.ml.
Lemmy was literally created by two ML (not machine Learning) programmers and people are acting like communists are the ones who invaded this space. 😂
lmao
Which linux distro do you use?
Not Arch. Oh no, I am now banned from Lemmy, aren't I!?:-P
Piefed hours