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[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 66 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So while I really hate performative tough guy bullshit as a former MMA practitioner, I would really caution you against thinking the guy in the picture on the left is not really fucking strong. the guy who's all cut up and striated with the ideal visible body often isn't stronger than the dude with a couple layers of fat over his muscles that has been lifting his heavy body around his whole life. There's also a class of dude I run into that just have some kind of genetics for absurd super colossal strength without any particular background in weightlifting or anything to justify why they are that strong (I'm sadly not in that cohort).

Additionally, we have weight classes for a reason. There was a fight recently where a chunky out of shape dude was put up against two female fighters and he won pretty handily. The gold medal winning women's soccer team got absolutely destroyed by a boy's 15-year-old club. Having trained with plenty of women in the gym over the years, none of them have ever expressed a rhetoric where they think that they can realistically fight a man in a venue where grappling is allowed. I will definitely take a lady Thai fighter over Joe barstool in a stand-up only bout though. There's plenty of footage of foreigners in Thailand trying their hand and getting absolutely pasted with some devastating leg kicks.

I give this starter a pack only a 5 out of 10.

[–] TaterTot@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Many a man underestimated Butter Bean.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

There is no endurance, but the power is there. Someone in the example won't last a minute, but they wont have to if they drop 250lbs on your throat in that first minute.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I also bet you ask most women fighters if they feel comfortable taking on any guy at 230-245, they are having none of it. 100lbs of fat is still an absurd advantage.

[–] abcd@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

I once did some fun boxing with a friend of mine. He punched me just in my arm without any effort and it was enough to make me stumble. He is around 10-15cm taller than me, and around 20-30kgs heavier. My arm was blue for weeks.

Weight absolutely matters. It’s simple physics (kinetic energy)

Also you can compensate a lot with training. I‘m also in this picture. But since I do regular cardio, I can run for hours and move my dad body the whole day without getting tired. With a bit of strength training I am able to build some serious invisible strength. I wouldn’t underestimate a guy with a bit of body fat.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've got some martial arts training, but only did like a month of BJJ with no other real grappling training. A girl-jock friend of mine, super active in BJJ and pretty big and buff for a girl, wanted to do a little playful sparring.

I pinned her so fast, with so little effort, it wasn't even funny. She'd been training for years, and she was in great shape for it, but my amateur ass absolutely destroyed her.

Also, I did do some powerlifting for a while, and everyone who actually lifts heavy looks like a chubby farm boy.

To counter this, I could share that the guy who consistently took on all sparring partners at my BJJ gym was about 145 pounds.

I never got to see him in a real match, but his grappling was unmatched. Big BIG guys would train with him. He would teach the class while in the middle of a spar, instructing the group in a low key way, never getting oit of breath. Meanwhile, the 240 pound guy underneath him struggled and strained and grunted and could never pin him successfully.

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm in this meme and I don't like it

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm the guy in the shirtless photo, but the rest is not accurate.

Well ok I have a long beard, but it's mot my personality.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've got an alarming quantity. The saving grace is I don't think I'm strong, say any of the weird shit, post the memes or have delusions about my fighting proficiency. And I'm not bald.

I used to be rather fit and I wrestled in high school. I'm fairly confident I could break free of someone roughly less skilled than me and maybe a hair stronger and flee. I've never been in a fight, I've been punched while boxing but was too disoriented to get a good hit back (first and only time boxing), and I've punched a friend in the face as the culmination to a funny conversation about how he's never been punched in the face.

Flannel is really comfy, and I want to be the sort of person who goes on more hikes than I have time to.
I have no self delusions in the physical realm.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Oh yes, I'm with you on flannel shirts. I have one, and it's warm and soft and my wife likes to cuddle me while I'm wearing it. But it's relatively new. In my grunge era, I had some ratty, worn flannels that I threw away when I sold out.

Also, I have a lot of black tee shirts, but I wear other colors, too.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

Yo, let's go hiking. Been a while since I've been out in the forest and i need external motivation.

[–] PotatoLibre@feddit.it 6 points 2 days ago

I'm just happy I don't wear baggy shorts cause I think I checked all the rest.

[–] alienzx@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

I feel attacked

[–] individual@toast.ooo 0 points 2 days ago

I'm in this meme and I like it

[–] tatann@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm in this picture and I like it cause it's funny, but also not accurate

I can't fight, never thrown a punch in my life, but I've had athletic people come at me thinking they could lay me down (friendly wrestling) and they couldn't (and ended up under me unable to move)

My only "street fight" ever ended in a few seconds cause the other guy (attacking me) felt like paper when I threw him away. He stood up and just walked away.

So no I would never think I can "take someone" cause I don't know how to and have little stamina, but don't underestimate big dudes too

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

There is a reason that weight classes / divisions exist.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Forgot the "Thinks his skills at hitting 100m targets will allow him to fight the government in a civil war situation"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's genuinely good enough for urban warfare, considering it's less about what you can hit and more about how many other dudes are trying to do the same thing

Too bad a lot of these guys are rural

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Depends on how "the government" fights, too. Guns don't do shit against chemical warfare (tear gas etc.) or bombings. IMO, in a modern, developed state an insurgency can't do shit if the military isn't at least neutral, or they get support from foreign forces.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not paying a lot of attention to Myanmar I take it

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Myanmar is exactly the kind of country that made me specify "modern, developed state". Their military ain't shit compared to the US or most european countries.

So you're claiming something is impossible when there's been zero popular revolts against your limited examples, mostly because no one running one has managed to fuck up that badly?

Alright lol

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

insurgency can do a lot, especially if the "developed" nation doesn't want to level the place because it's either their place too or will result in many civilian casualties.

A large part of the US special forces mission is training locals in insurgent/gorilla tactics. Most of the swiss defense posture is training their general population to just be familiar enough with weapons and tactics to wreck havoc on invaders, their standing army and armaments are really small.

Source: a lot of time deployed

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

if the “developed” nation doesn’t want to level the place because it’s either their place too or will result in many civilian casualties.

You seem to have more trust in the Trump government than I do. They will absolutely go for mass civilian casualties if there's a big insurgency in the US.

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's a wild and sensationalized statement. I know that there are enough good people to prevent trump from killing tons of civilians. Most people I know in government right now are keeping their heads down and counting the days until the mid terms. Most of the people in the military, even on the right, roll their eyes at a lot of Trump's rhetoric. The sycophant politicians are the only ones that really grovel, and while they can pass laws, and definitely fuck the government up, they don't give the order to pull the trigger.

In Nazi Germany they had a tight hold on propoganda, we have the internet, it's really hard to do that now.

In the 70s there was domestic terrorism and bombings all the time and there wasn't mass civilian casualties.

Is the insane rhetoric turned up right now? Absolutely, but there are many steps between where we are and mass civilian death by the hands of the govt.

Also, please don't put me in any camp of trusting Trump, that's rude.

[–] Poayjay@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Forgot the tribal tattoo

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean I do manual labor. I am pretty strong plus the weight. I don’t fight or act like I fight though. The beard is just a beard, I don’t have a strong chin. No flannel though, I have been thinking of getting an outfit for fall like Red Green, keep you stick on the ice.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

WTF is invisible lat syndrome, and why am I certain I have it?

Edit: nevermind, I'm negative for lats but also for the arm pose that is a result of the syndrome.

Random question, though... When does a moob become a pec? Asking for a friend.

[–] Soku@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If your friend fails the pencil test, it's definitely a moob

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ok, but when is it definitely a pec?

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When it's made out of muscle and not lard.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about muscle with a protective insulation coating? Like I can flex em and make em dance, but they're definitely under a layer.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 1 day ago

The pec is the muscle part. The layer is moob.

[–] amotio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With my new aquired knowledge, maybe when you can hold three pencils?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe when you can grip the pencil and write with it?

[–] amotio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can someone please explain me what is the pencil test?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If there is enough skin/sag under your pectoral to hold a pencil, it's a manboob

[–] amotio@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Thanks, suddenly I can't find any pencils, weird.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You must be at least this tall_________

To be in this meme

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oof, ILS is a menace.

Peddlers of invisible carpet rolls.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 3 points 2 days ago

On a separate but slightly related note: When is the Brawny paper towel guy going to get a beard again?