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Roughly six pages from more than 8,500 documents provided by Epstein’s estate to Democratic members on the House Oversight Committee include meeting schedules appearing to show appointments with Bannon and venture capitalist Peter Thiel during Donald Trump’s first term in office.

The documents also mention Musk joining a potential trip to Epstein’s island in 2014.

Prince Andrew also is listed in the documents as a passenger on Epstein’s aircraft, with financial disclosures provided to the committee suggesting evidence of payments from Epstein to an individual listed as “Andrew.”

His appointment with Bannon in 2019 was just months before Epstein was federally charged with trafficking and sexually abusing dozens of minors. Epstein pleaded not guilty and was found dead in a jail cell in New York in August 2019.

His appointment with Bannon in 2019 was just months before Epstein was federally charged with trafficking and sexually abusing dozens of minors. Epstein pleaded not guilty and was found dead in a jail cell in New York in August 2019.

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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 100 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I don't get how the MAGA voters, can believe there is a secret pedo ring that runs the world, then vote for one of its members, who isn't even hiding what a piece of shit he is.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

It must be secret or it is no longer a conspiracy. The "cabal" of rich and powerful people running the world known to everyone ? Nah not interesting, it must be a secret cabal ...

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

And they still don't think he is involved somehow. They are so excited to tell you Bill Clinton is involved given the same evidence lol

Like anyone gives a shit if Bill Clinton was locked up haha

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[–] danielton1@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

That's how cults work.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

maybe their thought process is that they wish they could be part of it too

[–] regedit@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 days ago

Instead of temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they're actually temporally embarrassed pedophiles?

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[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 147 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Is pedophilia a prerequisite for joining the financial elite?

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 97 points 5 days ago (2 children)

A person gets that rich because their morals allow them to exploit other people.

Once they are that rich, they can get anything they want, they no longer have the "thrill of the hunt" and substitute it for the "thrill of the forbidden".

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 50 points 5 days ago (2 children)

When you feel invincible you tend to test that invulnerability. We should feel lucky they aren't hunting us for sport just to prove they can.

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

... as far as we know. Victims of pedophilia often survive and could at least theoretically tell about the crimes. Dead people don't.

Who knows how many people who "fell through the cracks" of society were picked up and hunted for sports? I don't think anyone would start a manhunt if some homeless people disappear.

I would NOT be surprised if billionaires would do this.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You know I was going to say its probably some sort of "forbidden fruit" but if that were the case I think a pedophile ring would be the tip of the iceberg.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Watch the movie Hostel, or read the synopsis, and tell me that doesn't seem plausible.

Escape Room has a similar premise. One could also argue Cabin In The Woods tells a similar tale of shadowy groups of elites using human sacrifice if you put billionaires in place of the Old Gods.

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[–] Hegar@fedia.io 106 points 6 days ago (12 children)

also mentions a tentative breakfast with Bill Gates.

Oh look, more evidence that bill gates probably raped children.

In my experience people online are really reluctant to believe this of gates, despite the constant stream of evidence from epstein files, the workplace culture and business practices that reflect a psychopath in charge and the need for one of the most expensive PR excersizes in history since ashoka the terrible started promoting buddhism.

[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 47 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's because he has been the victim of clearly unfair attacks. So many people will defend that person to the hilt on everything because they were unfairly attacked on other things.

We see this over and over with government agencies that the Republicans may attack to try to make them worse and everybody else pretends like they were doing an acceptable job all around.

Bill Gates is a piece of shit though, in at least three different ways. Pushing over use of toxic pesticides like glyphosate, advocating for spraying sulfur dioxide en masse in the upper atmosphere to slow global warming in so-called Geo engineering, and as you mentioned, fucking underage girls.

He's not one of the good guys no matter how good his PR people did in the last 30 years painting him as a likable old coot. He is not that, he is a deluded man that has nobody to tell him when he is wrong in his orbit.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I mean, it’s also possible he’s just a piece of shit in other ways and he was actually meeting with Epstein for some run of the mill neoliberal horror show, like convincing farmers in Sudan to use RoundUp Ready® crops or something like that. I guess I’m just saying, not all evil motherfuckers are evil in the same way.

NOTE: I am not in any way trying to say I think Bill Gates is 100% not a pedo, just that without him being on a flight manifest to the rape island, or testimony from a victim, I’m not certain he is a pedo.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Gates himself admitted Epstein brought him a woman and her daughter to eat dinner with him and called them beautiful. So we know Epstein was at least attempting this with Gates. And Melissa imo divorced him related to this given her comments in a recent interview.

It's the same as Michael Jackson - his own daughter Paris believes he did those crimes to boys. That adds a lot of credibility imo. Someone's wife or daughter isn't casually going to accept this, they had to do a lot of processing first

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[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The thing with Bill Gates is, he was an absolute piece of shit while running Microsoft. Basically killing all the competitors and trying to kill open source projects.

The whole he's a good person look at what he is doing with his money, is just flawed. He shouldn't have that money in the first place. He definitely screwed over other people and companies to get that kind of money. If you think I don't care about companies, well the extra costs will just go to the consumer, so us.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I seriously doubt everyone who traveled to that island was in on the rapes. But you about couldn't convince me any given visitor was ignorant of the crimes.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now we just need to wait for a Peter Thiel speech on how releasing the Epstein files will release the antichrist.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Given how many things he claims will release the antichrist, it's amazing we haven't done it already by accident.

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 57 points 6 days ago (9 children)
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 85 points 5 days ago

Always the ones you mostly suspect.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He had a kink roleplay account where he pretended to be his toddler son picking up women.... so yeah

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

...his TODDLER son? Excuse me what the actual fuck?

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 6 days ago

🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 days ago

Errol Musk, who has at least nine children and stepchildren and has been married to three women, maintains a powerful grip over much of the family. The former stepdaughter, whom he was accused of touching when she was 4, said she later had a child with him when she was in her 20s. She has struggled with drug use, while her mother — who married Errol Musk twice — has grappled with mental health issues.

[–] thelittleerik@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Covert pedos are usually sometimes the loudest screaming pedophilia at people as an insult.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

Like father, like son.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago

Release the Trump/Epstein files

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 days ago

We already knew that Elon Musk was a pedo, but it is nice to get confirmation.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago (48 children)

Just learned that Erica Kirk was in on all the human trafficking as well. I swear this is the thing binding all these assholes together. Raping children and blackmailing each other over it. Disgusting.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Recommend the documentary Children Underground, about Romanian street children and their lives. Imo it really adds an element to this and her connections to trafficking Romanian kids decades after this documentary.

Also, Ghilisaine Maxwell's dad had a similar charity to fly Romanian orphans to Israel on his plane: https://www.nli.org.il/he/images/%20nnl_archive_al990040300950205171/NLI#$FL45875197

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[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 21 points 5 days ago

More trickle feeds. I'm not surprised by Bill Gates after his orange lipped dinner with Trump.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Edit: Brain not work gud. Somehow I misread Epstein as Musk.

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