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[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only good fascist is a very dead fascist.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was thinking that another exception would be those who open their eyes and leave it behind, but then they are no longer fascists. So you could say their old fascist self is essentially dead too.

So while I do prefer this method as some ex-fascists may turn into anti-fascist advocates, and we can always use more help against fascism, it still doesn't really counter the adage.

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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

fuck that. I wish harm on fascists. lots of it. so much harm that other fascists are scared to even be associated with the word.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

That's step two or three, for sure. But the point being made is fascist isn't a word that can be applied to anyone and everyone (setting aside the 2¢ insult version) - it is a specific political ideology that one earns by their words and actions.

Unfortunately it is also complex to diagnose, particularly in early stages, especially as intelligent budding fascists will deliberately evade the formal definitions while still finding ways to accomplish similar effects.

But yes - there's also cases where fascists clearly and obviously are doing fascist things, and need to be stopped immediately, please feel free to give them a proper knuckle sandwich (or an appropriate grade of violence as the situation warrants)

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Although by some coincidence, the people we call fascist tend to spend alot of their time wishing alot of harm on all sorts of people they hate.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 161 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't call them Nazis because I dislike them, I dislike them because they're Nazis.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (9 children)

No they are fascists, Nazi was the shorthand for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei (NSDAP), the first 4 letters.

Fascism gets its name from Italy, Mussolini's Fascist Party, but it is the name for the political ideology as a whole, there is no Nazism and Americans being called Nazis is kinda weird, imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

Thanks for coming to my stickler talk.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

If the situation were flipped, and Hitler was rising to power ~80 years after we had a massive war to take out MAGA fascists, then yeah I think people would refer to them as "MAGA", at least at first.

Nazi ~~means~~ refers to National Socialist, but at this point in history, it can also just refer to political movements that are fascist and Nazi-like. The meanings of words shift over time.

Edit: Fixed to appease a pedant.

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[–] Humana@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

I don't live in America, and many people here actually do use MAGA or Trumpism to describe the local right wing people and parties because they are largely just copying America...

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What do you call people who wear red and black swastikas and say heil Hitler while doing a salute typical of the Nazi party?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

imagine if the scenario was flipped and you called german fascists MAGAs.

It's semantics. The German and American fascists all pull from the same ideological and rhetorical playbook.

Veneration of the national security state. Zealous religious orthodoxy. Obsession with loyalty oaths and ethnicity sorting. Reflexive xenophobia. Institutionalized quackery.

It's all the same shit. Same as Apartheid Africa. Same as Kuomanting China. Same as Pinochet's Chile and Milei's Argentina.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sir that is Cody's Showdy and he is a srs journalist not a shitposter

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We sit at the feet of Warmbo, he shall bless us with his corn cream...

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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The only good nazi is a dead nazi.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Just be more careful than Santa. He only checks his list twice cause the worst punishment he gives is a lump of coal. The guillotine is a lot more absolute in its punishment.

[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

If you look like a fascist and talk like a fascist and act like a fascist you are probably a freaking fascist and that's the way people are going to deal with you until you give them evidence to the contrary.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 30 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Generally, the people who claim the meaning has changed or been watered down are fascists or their sympathizers or prescriptivists that fail to understand how language evolves. Watch them come out of the woodwork to explain how nobody is a nazi because the National Socialist party doesn't exist anymore. Buncha stupid fucking bastards.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

They're not literally gassing people, so they can't be nazis. It's only after the fact we get to ask who could have seen this coming.

You know, like they practice with school shootings every day. Desensitization is a big part.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

A dead giveaway is when they start throwing around the word ‘nuance.’

It must be in the script they’re all taught, because every closet fascist or astroturfer loves defending fascist policies and actions with “nuance.”

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago

But I do wish harm on fascists...

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

MAGAts = Neo-Nazis + Fascists.

[–] Coupable@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago

"It is the correct word for donald trump and the people around him"

[–] Soulg@ani.social 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Watched this yesterday and "Charles Entertainment Kirk" fucking murdered me

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[–] compostgoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Oh! This is the guy who talked about what a shithead Fetterman was even before the stroke! I could never find it again but I remember his face.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The channel‘s called Some More News

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[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 44 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Cody seems so dispirited for months. Not that I blame him at all.

[–] Tracaine@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (3 children)

We've all been dispirited for months bud. Anyone who acts otherwise is either ignorant or hiding it.

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wish harm on them 🤷‍♂️

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

https://youtu.be/nD3rSA4FSqk?t=4982

"What is it that you want people to do when you call them fascists?"

We want you to stop being fascists, you blithering idiot!

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