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they're still black bagging people off of streets in broad daylight, in plain clothes with zero identification, and sending them to whothefuckknows...if your federal setup cant stop that then what the fuck is it for?

The will of citizens comes second to the rights of all people. It wouldn't matter if 90% of the country wanted this. It would still be an unconstitutional infringement of rights.

Waiting for the first politician with power of a police department to say this. The police will likely turn on that person. But it needs to be done. States/Cities need to defend their citizens. Or at the very least show how the existing systems have failed and fallen fully to fascism.

replaced with a government that serves the will of its citizens.

What are we going to do about the 20 to 40 percent of people who support ICE and other horrors?

edit for clarity: replace "this" with concrete

It gives the populous more 'room' to intercede. Basically, a normal person at a cafe feels they have some permission structure to stand up to ice, after all, the governor and the mayor told them to. So they aren't rebelling, they are helping uphold the law. I think things like this actually goes a long way in moving the general public. At the very least it doesn't hurt

According to the mayor, while federal agents in violation of the order would not be arrested by Chicago police, the city will take the federal government to court if necessary.

So yeah... nope, they're not going to enforce it.

The police are probably still pissed off they got tear gassed (that is for black people!). But the best anyone can hope for is "Yeah. This library is an ICE free zone. Two feet out the door isn't. So just wait there with your guns"

they are hoping to be another 08 crisis, when everyone was desperate for any job, even joining the military

Yeah... sometimes I feel like growing up with an abusive vindictive parent kinda prepared me for this. I wish I had something better to tell you, but the reality is they just suck and they shouldn't be in control. They're abusive. They're vindictive. I'm sorry and you deserve better, but you're stuck with them (for now). You're not alone though. We're all stuck with them (for now).

They get off on watching you struggle, but they also have fragile little egos that are easily bruised. Use that to your advantage. Take some comfort in the fact that narcissists are so blinded by their own egos, it usually means they can be outsmarted because underestimating everyone who isn't them is their default mode. Their thinking is really rigid because they lack empathy and the ability to see things from any perspective other than their own. Often this results in them inadvertently but repeatedly shooting themselves in the foot while trying to assert their dominance. Try to laugh about it when it happens. Take care of yourself. Try to take care others. Stick together and remember you're better than them.

Because fascists fear one thing more than each other, people.

Hopefully red shirts soon

its brown because they were up trumps behind.

As an American, I rather restore the rule of law, then pause red state's federal representation and EC votes until we do a proper reconstruction. This is OUR house, lmfao, why do the majority of law abiding people have to leave, just because of a small minority of lawbreakers managing to usurp the government powers?

Take. Our. Country. Back.

If Minnesota, Michigan, and the greater Great Lakes area wanted to join Canada I would be open to it.

Then we could all focus on work and manufacturing and quality of life.

Also would welcome the states of Alaska and Washington.