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Y'all are just making shit up. There is a smear campaign against him from other streamers and maga and pro Israel fucks. Fucking dumbasses live on a different plane of reality.
Why did he scream at doggo just for moving (in the original video) ? That in itself sucks. Also he initially said no there was no collar then 12hrs later said there was a collar and showed it with the prongs removed and taped.
I could care less one way or the other about a nopixel rp streamer gone political. But it sure seems sus in the least.
Here’s a post with him talking to his dog trainer about electric collars. Y’all can decide for yourself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/1o1ph16/hasans_dog_trainer_acknowledges_that_he_and_hasan/
If you could care less then you do care at least a bit in the first place.
Go vegan, hypocrite
I watched the video, not sure what happened as there isn't a ton of evidence from a single video, could be true, could be speculation. What I do know is the OP seems obsessed with bringing him down, that seems odd to me.
Edit: secondarily, is that what we are gonna do here now? Streamer drama. Whether it's true or not, leave that shit on reddit. I thought I left the children behind there.
I see the same thing. It is really unclear what happened, but OP is... Quite interested in this? It's unfortunate because there are legitimate criticisms to level at Hassan, but there are dedicated people that will take anything that makes Hassan look bad and use it as some kind of indictment on everything he represents.
Like, assuming the dog was shocked, that is bad, but... It's not really that bad? Like he would be a bad dog owner, and potentially abusive to some, but I would guess the kind of people acting the most upset about this probably don't really care about animal welfare. We do much worse to the animals we eat. Is it that much different for the animals we don't?
Is it even different from how we allow parents to treat children?
And that's assuming the worst. To me, Hassan scolded the dog, then looked potentially annoyed that the dog yelped about nothing. I get it, not a good dog owner thing to do, but I have seen parents do the same thing to their kids. It's a generally shitty thing to do, but... We kinda do shitty things sometimes, and I kinda understand that.
You can criticize him as a dog owner, but it just feels like this is a hit piece and drama farm.
Regardless if he shocked the dog or not, to me it’s bizarre how he gets upset over the dog getting up
Training a dog to stay on their bed is basic dog training...
If they are being rowdy or you need them to calm down sure. But expecting them to lie still for how ever many hours you're gonna sit there and stream is just unreasonable. The dog only stood up and put their front paws off the bed before getting told off. While being choked nonetheless.
I don’t see how that makes his reaction any less bizarre…
I find it strange this story seems to be getting so much traction in the media. I first saw it on a Forbes article, and now PETA has made a statement.
Idk if it was a shock collar, vibration collar, or if the dog got a claw stuck or whatever. In the clip, he does seem over-agitated in the moment, and possibly too strict/controlling/micromanaging of his dog (unless he just recently gave the dog a command to stay there before the clip started). But, that's not really strong evidence of a pattern of animal abuse. Neither is having a collar too tight one time.
Some people think shock collars/e-collars are valid training tools. I don't, but it seems strange the media is giving so much attention to a couple of clips showing possible questionable dog training/care practices of a Twitch streamer.
If there’s one way to get me to question a side, is by getting PETA on your side.
My theory is that once it got in the news, the right picked it up and are milking it for all it’s worth to bad mouth the left?
I'll preface this by saying that I do not follow any of these slop streamers (be it Hasan, Ethan/Hila, Destiny, etc.). I think they all suck. I'm just upset that the dog got hurt.
That being said - from my perspective and first impression I'm leaning towards this being a shock collar incident.
The "paw clipping" theory doesn't hold water to me currently. We don't know what kind of bed that is and it's not possible to determine this from the video. Maybe there is evidence that can prove this otherwise, but from what I've been reading, nobody provided anything to suggest this other than a slowmo of what we already can (or rather, cannot) see. The timing of the dog's reaction is interesting, I'll accept that, but that may as well just be a coincidence until there is something else to support it.
The "shock collar" theory looks more plausible because:
The mere possibility of the collar having that function is enough to make me lean towards that it actually is a shock collar. Granted, he showed the collar on stream, but that doesn't really prove us anything until he provides an exact product make and model and it being on the dog in that exact configuration as he presented it.
Besides, the collar being electronic at all is a major red flag in my opinion. If he needed to track his dog, he could easily attach an AirTag to a regular collar.
At the end, I don't care who or what it is. Just let the dog be happy. If he doesn't like having or caring for the dog, then why have it in the first place?
You call this animal abuse, the guy barely gets angry, and even if he did get angry it doesn't mean jack shit about how some one treats their pet. You call this animal abuse, the guy isn't even yelling at his dog, it doesn't mean anything.
For your own health, you should probably ask yourself why you think he is abusing his pet, based on the evidence you shared? Because there is no way that you can tell by the two clips you shared that he is, in NO WAY. But here you are sharing this as evidence. Either you are stupid as fuck or you are being manipulated by this whole streamer drama shit.
Stop watching internet influencers, they are all boring as fuck and stupid as fuck, but I guess stupid attracts stupid.
You can be abusive without being angry or yelling... your refutation makes no sense.
Dogs are notoriously insecure about people criticizing their career achievements for example
Stop watching internet influencers, they are all boring as fuck and stupid as fuck, but I guess stupid attracts stupid.
Way ahead of you. It is remarkable how universally the Hasan stans have all started assuming that I watch some kind of "counter-Hasan" and that's where all this is coming from. Like I said, I saw it on reddit when it went to the top of /r/all for a while.
You call this animal abuse, the guy isn’t even yelling at his dog, it doesn’t mean anything.
See, this is more of what I'm talking about when I say that the stans are doing absolutely 0 to change my mind about this: I think it's pretty clear that he shocked the dog with a collar on stream. You might disagree with that, and fine, you can tell me why you think so (my guess is it will include the phrase "dew claw.") But just pretending that all of a sudden we're talking about him "barely yelling at her" and that's the issue, is just going to convince me that you're not really aware of what we're talking about. And that kind of lack of reading comprehension doesn't really bode well for your ability to make sense of things that are more complex than "what do the words I literally just read say, and what does the person who wrote them think happened and what are they irritated about."
started assuming that I watch some kind of "counter-Hasan" and that's where all this is coming from.
It's pretty clear you do, or you frequent places that have a cult-like hate for Hasan. Any reasonable and neutral viewer would see this is a nothing burger. Or at least warrants caution before accusing and slandering someone.
People arguing over whether or not there is a shock collar or whether or not the dog was actually hurt by something are completely overlooking the objective fact that it is massive dickhead behaviour to get annoyed at your dog simply because it dared to get up and walk around the room.
ED:IT: He claimed later that his dog "clipped herself on something getting off the bed". So not only does he get annoyed at his dog for walking around the room, he also gets annoyed at it when it's in pain and doesn't bother to investigate any further. People are really trying to defend this?
Yeah. The behavior of people in this comments section really blows my mind. Just listening to the guy talk about his dog, or watching them interact, it is very clear that he's a POS. Also, the whole thing of "she's the most spoiled dog in the world" and how angry he is about that, instead of something like "and she deserves it because she is the best" or something, is so disgusting. Bro why the fuck do you even have a dog. Just get a little statue to be in frame for you on the platform, and let this dog go live its life away from your stress inducing stream.
I think it for real is very similar to MAGA. The whole concept of watching the video and coming to their own conclusion is alien to them. They need a tribe to be part of, and so anything bad someone says about the tribe needs somebody to motivate to say some stuff in defense. They're barely paying attention to the evidence, just trying to figure out how to muster the best counterpoint they can about whatever it is they've decided in advance is "the right side."
Wow, Hasan's dedicated hate subreddit that constantly falsely smears him, is now saying he is abusing his dog.
Shocking.
Meanwhile, the leader of these brigades is literally currently in court for being a PDF file.
Deleting
He showed the collar on stream today. It vibrates but it doesn’t have shock pins on it.
This is bullshit drama stirred up by people who have actually killed their dogs via ignorance and another who is a child molestor and staunch Israel supporter.
Yeah I'm calling bullshit. I've been around dogs my whole life, volunteered with abused animals at local shelters, worked at an animal hospital, I'm extremely familiar with what dogs act like when they've been abused and none of the body language from the dog in this video even hints at it. Looks more like a dew claw got caught on the edge of the bed.
You guys are out of your fucking minds. I'm legitimately getting angry about this.
You can literally see the dew claw, on the back of her leg facing away from the "bed", in both the frame before, and the frame after, she yelps. It is nowhere near contacting the bed or anything else. I don't have time to make screenshots but I will make some.
I know that the Hasan subreddit is saying it was her dew claw. They're also saying it was an air tag collar (and ignoring the big box with the green light). You guys are out of your fucking minds and this man is a massive piece of shit.
I only had to scroll back 13 hours to find a comment in your history that references your own carnism~1~. You likely commit grievous, monstrous cruelty and violence against vulnerable individuals several times a day. If what you are doing is an appropriate response to what this streamer does, then what is my appropriate response to what you are doing?
Your anger is so performative and misdirected. If I had to guess, I would say it is cognitive dissonance pressuring you to find targets for this anger, as a way of making yourself feel like a protector and defender of animals, despite your 24/7 behaviour to the contrary. This is a form of self-licensing. The lies we tell ourselves are not convincing to others. Keep this behaviour to yourself.
Or maybe it's all just bad faith and you simply have an axe to grind against this guy.
~1~ How do you know when someone abuses animals? Don't worry, they tell you, and tell you, and tell you, and tell you, and...
Your anger is not legitimate, the dog's leg is visibly right up against the bed as she's stepping back onto it, your obvious desperation for any excuse to discredit this guy is not a good look
Ohhh we got an H3 Stan on a crusade in here. You gonna defend Israel, too?
People should find something to do with their lives than be a part of this culture that revolves around random people whose job it is to talk into a mic on stream.
Don't care one way or the other about the streamer but this is some wild shit to be so upset about. Guy in heated political rant looks at dog and dog yelps. Uh... OK? There's real, genuinely vile animal abuse in the world and we need to get riled up over this well groomed and pampered dog yelping because it might have gotten shocked.
Even if we choose to break it down like the Zapruder film and find a shock collar what does that mean? Is the mere existence of a shock collar on a dog evidence of animal abuse? Is there real proof that it was used in this clip? Would irrefutable evidence of one shock completely demolish this man's credibility? If you care because he's a public figure that could be normalizing abusive behavior then why don't you repost some headlines about that Maga lady shooting dogs in her back yard or any of the dog fighting stories that pop up from time to time?
They don't actually give a shit about the dog or the validity of the accusations, they're just interested in attacking the streamer. Just as parasocial and deranged as any rabid fan, just from a different emotional direction.
Never heard of this guy but he sounds fucking evil. I hope the dog's life improves substantially after this
It seems unlikely tbh ☹️
Weird that a dog has anything to do with him being right about a genocidal fascist government.
IDF nazis have no ammunition left in the court of public opinion.
I think its far more likely that its a gps collar
Think about it this way, for years hasans invited a wide variety of people to come be part of his stream. Now, I've met some real pieces of shit in my life that absolutely wouldn't stand for a dog having a shock collar. Surely someone, anyone would have asked about it? Called him out on stream or in a tweet? Most I've seen is a clip (this one specifically) of some person saying the collar was too tight, which is a concern but something very easily remedied and was certainly unintentional.
The dog looks well fed, well groomed, he shows the dog off during streams all the time. I just don't buy the story here.
Hasan has always been a total narcissist. His leftist positions are pure coincidence, since he’s utterly unreflective and philosophically illiterate. That he’s not a right-wing grifter is a flip of the coin.
Reddit is currently very mad about animal abuse, with the flesh of vulnerable individuals still stuck between their teeth.