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I'm curious how effective the mass propaganda on every website and in all the airports etc are going to be. People are stupid and they're going to hear that narrative over and over and we all know the Democrats aren't going to effectively counter it

Personally I'm banking on them refusing to negotiate long enough that Americans get desperate enough to drag them into the streets and finally treat them the way fascists should be treated.

Yup.

We're in an abusive relationship with our federal government. Keep it shut down until Americans revolt and deal with the fascists. Then we can reorganize it and try again.

Because that is historically what they have done. Republicans know that can take advantage of Democrats “weakness” of being able to compromise. The illegal firing of furloughed workers is metaphorically the Republican terrorists executing hostages until their demands are met. They don’t care about the damage they are doing, but they know their opponents do. They have also historically used the tactic successfully.

They expect it has worked in the past. They will keep executing their hostages and they will keep blaming their own willful destruction on those who won’t just give them everything they want. What they are too stupid to realize is that many of their hostages are their own people, and the only thing that makes a rightist reconsider their sick ideology is when it comes back to bite them personally.

He thinks they can force their hand by saying it's the Democrats that are preventing the military from getting paid.

So, basically, if Mike Johnson was your dad and (he spent all day after tracking your internet habits) you were abducted, you'd be a goner and he would go around blaming the abductors for refusing to release you for free.

Because party Democrats are fucking cowards who fold the moment they face a moment of resistance. If I were the Republican party, I would have considered it to be a safe gambit.

It's good that the Democrats are refusing to give in now, but they really could have started doing that up to a year ago.

Because the hierarchy of society that most politicians support demands employees who are terrified of leaving their exploitative jobs. Money is a powerful motivator, but even more powerful is the health of you and your family.

And at the same time, a very sick citizen does not generate economic benefits to them, so there's no reason to make serious care available and/or not crushingly expensive. Better to drain as much as possible from them before the dead weight succumbs to those pressures than direct any revenue that could given back to "job creators" as tax breaks of subsidies.

It's also why political and media personalities will brag about how quickly the county recovered from COVID. It wasn't an economic miracle, it was sacrificing lives at the altar of capitalism. It went hand in hand with our absurdly disproportionate number of deaths.

Why we don't storm their houses and string them up from lamp posts (or, I suppose, vote them out), I don't know.

Make it make sense.

Propaganda + Human Stupidity

We aren't as evolved as people would like to think.

It doesn't make sense but as long as they are given another person to look down on the Americans seem happy.

Because the American theocracy is built around their most holy of books, “Atlas Shrugged.” Greed and selfishness are noble pursuits, and whoever is hurt by them deserves it because they weren’t strong enough to fight back and win.

It doesn’t make any sense, it’s so fucking stupid. I can’t stand paying a middleman every month who is not a doctor and can just deny me coverage that I need if I go to the wrong hospital or if they don’t agree with something my doctor recommended. All because a significant portion of the populace is too fucking stupid to understand how this is an extremely inefficient system at best and they reduce any argument in favor of changing it to “communism!” which is a word they heard is bad generations ago and never bothered spending two seconds to look up the actual definition ever since.

We pay more for healthcare than you do, per capita. It's not that we don't have free healthcare - it's A) that the oligarchs have figured out how to build a money siphoning machine out of our healthcare system and B) that they can use it to enforce social classes.

Let him try. The soldiers know who's withholding their pay, and you never not pay your soldiers. Should honestly be rule 1 of history, even before don't print money to pay for debt and don't invade Russia in winter

Have you met the Baileys? The imaginary (conservative) voters that Schumer bases all his policy decisions on? Watch this clip from Last Week Tonight and get a whole new understanding of his incompetence.

The Baileys: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

Media isn't owned by people sympathetic to Democratic talking points.

Doesn't matter what your message is if no one plays it.

It’s not because they’re incompetent. It’s because they don’t give a shit about you or any of us and they don’t see themselves as part of the group of people that have to experience the consequences.

Don't get fooled again.

all they are asking is for a clean bill so that they have more time. you know. like what the dems gave them in spring. /s I mean its true so not exactly /s but the /s is for anyone who does not really understand the background but /s in that yes im making fun of the republicans and their absolute rediculous demands. They expect that they can do nothing and that the other side should bend over backwards to fix the problems they make.

That's what leftists have been trying to explain to liberals for the past 8 years. All the Democrats in Ohio were running on platforms of securing the border and keeping trans kids out of schools while being dead silent on Republican corruption in the state, Republican attempts to undermine cannabis and abortion referendums that the overwhelming majority of us voted for 2 years ago. Why would anyone vote for them if the best they can offer is watered down Republican plans?

It's almost like that was part of the right's strategy the whole fucking time.

Or they run out of money to keep paying their secret police to keep terrorizing people, and even they turn on them.

If anything, it seems like people are finally starting to understand why it's important to have a federal government (even if it's an imperfect one) and to have some federal protections (even if they were never full proof). Maybe if we make it through this we can fix what was broken, or at least improve it.

I was listening to an episode of It can happen here about the federalization of Chicago. The guest kept talking about how this felt different than any other time bc of the lawlessness and lack of accountability, especially since the people breaking the law are allowed to conceal their identity.

I can't help but feel a bit frustrated people didn't realize this was always going to be the reality of losing federal oversight. All of America is now at risk of turning into the little towns that the federal government had to be deployed to after the civil rights act. Except, the federal government has been taken over by the oligarchs that used to only control small towns and territories.

I wish America would remember our history, and understand this isn't the first time we have faced this bullshit. If we can stick together and remember what American values were supposed to be (liberty and justice for all), there's a chance we can make it.

It's a new battle requiring new strategies, but it's the same bullshit as always. Lawless gangs crushing dissent and ignoring civil rights while keeping their identity concealed? It's all so fucking on the nose sometimes.

In 1865, at the conclusion of the Civil War, six Confederate veterans gathered in Pulaski, Tennessee, to create the Ku Klux Klan, a vigilante group mobilizing a campaign of violence and terror against the African American people that benefited from the progress of Reconstruction. As the group gained members from all strata of Southern white society, it used violent intimidation to prevent Black Americans — and any white people who supported Reconstruction — from voting and holding political office.

In 2024, the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) underwent notable reconfigurations among its ranks. Two of the larger factions — the Old Glory Knights and the Loyal White Knights — either faded from relevance or ceased operations altogether. In the wake of these dissolutions, newer groups, such as the Maryland White Knights and the Sacred White Knights, emerged, gaining traction from members of the defunct chapters. This year has also seen an increase in collaborative efforts between Klan groups and other white supremacist organizations. The United Klan Nation notably co-hosted events with the Aryan Freedom Network, while antisemitic Christian Identity and Klan-affiliated networks, including the Church of the Keystone Knights and Kingdom Identity Ministries, overlapped through shared leadership.