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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] ShamanRonin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Don’t we all, Tasha. Don’t we all.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 52 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"Why are you asking me, your mom's literally a doctor!"

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

True, but Yar has more data to work with...

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Still, Dr. Crusher arguably does more picardio.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You don't talk to your mom about that.

Or, he's got the hots.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hey ensign, ever starred in a snuff film with a romulan spy?

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm missing some crucial information

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I think this is combining Star Trek with that part of Airplane where the pilot asks the kid inappropriate questions. "You ever been to a Turkish prison?"

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks, now that I get it it's pretty funny.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Have you ever seen a full grown naked Vulcan?

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[–] Mangoguana@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I really liked this episode. Next gen was always my favourite series, it always presented calamities and tragedies as problems to be solved.

It conveyed the analysis in a level headed way that removed (attempted really would be the right word) either blame or bias towards either party involved, something depicted as necessary to consider the right or appropriate tools for the situation.

It always got me through my toughest times, and yes I should read more XD

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Given that stance, I can only hope that you've watched The Orville. It stands as the spiritual successor to TNG. Gotta trudge through the 1st season, for the sake of getting FOX Entertainment hooked on the line.

Thereafter, they managed to tell the sort of contemporaneous stories that otherwise qualify for TNG in its time.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Might have to watch it. FWIW comparing series, Strange New Worlds straddles the fence between ToS and TNG. It’s got the morality battles of TNG and the absurdity of some ToS episodes. Only issue is the Emotional Spock. Don’t know why these writers and directors have to fuck with Spock all the time.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Don’t know why these writers and directors have to fuck with Spock all the time.

After watching my wife's reaction to Spock in the latest movies and series, I get it. The character is kind of a triple-threat if you keep his emotional side in frame:

  • His intelligence is always on display, which makes him a sapiosexual's dream-boat. I'd wager a lot of the women in Trek fandom lean this way.
  • Emo spock is utterly and perpetually broken, yet retrievable. His dual heritage and upbringing is a tragic story that renders him vulnerable. Yet It's a kind of vulnerability that is entirely not his fault, and seems fixable through love and care. SNW explored this through his relationship with Chapel, and he really does improve a bit, inviting the audience to indulge this fantasy a bit more.
  • Then there's the usual traits: physical strength, good social standing, and ranking officer. He's a somebody, and can hold his own with just about everyone.

In contrast, TOS Spock, along with the backstory we get from the movies, is someone that purged his emotions to become a paragon of stoicism. It's a male power-fantasy of sorts, which is speaking to a completely different audience (and in a different era).

I'll add that SNW is a delightful thirst-trap of a show, where every character scratches someone's itch. The writers really did need to "fuck with Spock" to fill out the roster of attractive archetypes.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was really disappointed with the 3rd season of SNW, so much so that I couldn't finish the finale. I mean, the crew fighting evil spirits to save the universe from annihilation, really? It's like the writers forgot what genre they were in and suddenly started trying to appeal to morons who just consume without thinking.

I liked - didn't love, but liked - the first 2 seasons, but they seem to have leaned into the bad aspects and abandoned all the good ones.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

I can't relate at all. Season 3 was great.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It didn't occur to me until I read this comment, but SNW is currently more of a silly show than The Orville. Strange times.

The Orville really comes out as a far more serious show, for sure. From the way its directed, the writing, filming, pacing, casting, costumes, sets... everything just screams "TNG: the lost episodes."

The "Moclins get addicted to cigarettes" episode is about as silly as it gets, but is underpinned by the sci-fi premise of: "when worlds collide." Much like The Trouble With Tribbles, it's light-hearted and hilarious, yet explores a very plausible "what if" scenario that doesn't break the universe or character in any way.

Contrast that to the SNW musical episode, which is just pure fun with a paper-thin flimsy premise, and we really do have something utterly ridiculous at times.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You really only have to trudge through the first episode, the rest of the series feels different. Every season has a few groaners depending on your preferences, but those are isolated instances.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I tried the first episode and immediately wrote the show off. Now you've got me thinking I might give it another go.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In my estimation, its biggest fans, often (but not always) folks who are also Discovery's loudest detractors, overpraise it. It was made by a TNG superfan to let him be a TNG captain acting out TNG scripts with TNG production values and TNG acting, and -- for good or ill -- with his particular sensibilities about what makes doing so fun. It definitely gets much better than the first couple of episodes, once they'd successfully tricked Fox into thinking it was a full-on Galaxy Quest spoof, and overall I enjoy it, but it has its issues.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

its biggest fans, often (but not always) folks who are also Discovery's loudest detractors

This is because The Orville and Discovery premiered nearly side by side. Off by two weeks.

You could not possibly make a stronger case for how severely Discovery missed what the spirit of Star Trek is than by simply watching the newest episodes of both series, week after week.

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[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I grew up on TNG but I was not old enough to understand it (I was 5 when I saw First Contact). As I rewatch season 1, I notice things that are heartwarming like Deanna having a conversation about confidence with Geordi or Data’s instant infatuation with Sherlock Holmes.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

It was a wholesome show. That's it. That's the whole secret. It's incredibly sad how rare this has become.

[–] blave@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

TNG also taught me the value of objectivity

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I always heard this growing up (though phrased as "but now you get high to feel normal"), and then when I tried weed for the first time I felt normal for once. It shut the constant noise in my mind off, allowing me to think. It melted away my anxiety. I didn't just feel good. I felt like the veil was lifted and I was seeing clearly for the first time in my life.

I do not get high to "feel good" outside of the fact that feeling normal and functional is a good feeling.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (11 children)

Whenever I try to explain people this - that it addresses and remediates an issue that I was BORN with and have suffered from every day of my life since living memory - they simply default to "yeah, you're an addict".

Sure fam, like your diabetic uncle is addicted to insulin. Guess we both just need to man up huh?

Usually said by the dude who pounds a daily 12er of Nattty light or Bud Light (Busch light now) and half their meals are fast food

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I feel like Tasha was talking more about heroine and less about weed.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

True but opiates are similar. The American opiate crisis began with prescribed painkillers. A lot of people slowly became addicts without realizing it was happening because they just took the pills when it hurt not realizing eventually that some of the pain was withdrawal.

The schedule 1 definition (high risk of abuse, no medicinal purpose) is the sort of thing that while I get it, I don't know of any drugs that actually belong there. Psychedelics are on it despite having low risk of abuse and medical uses. Cannabis is an analgesic, antiemetic, and appetite enhancer. Ecstasy has a place in ptsd treatment. Heroin, cocaine, and meth are all schedule 2.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The American opioid crisis was more of a late 90s thing while Yar's comments were created from the 80s environment which was much more likely to derive from the surge in use of crack cocaine at the time.

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Her honest explanation was better than anything I ever learned from D.A.R.E.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was actually part of the Red Ribbon era. D.A.R.E. was being phased out when I started elementary school.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm either old or dare kept coming back after being phased out. Both are probably true.

But yeah dare would just lie to kids about drugs and tell them to be annoying little shits who hide their parents cigs and try to get their parents to quit drinking. It turns out that just being honest about drugs to kids rather than sensationalizing them goes really far, and they trust you too. Honestly the biggest thing dare taught me as a kid was that cops lie.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My dumb ass thought she was referring to being pegged by Data at first.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is the point of drugs, yes.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. I don't need to feel good, I just need it to work well enough for me to be a functioning adult.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aside from making movies and gaming more interesting, I have never slept so well as I do when I use my legal thc vape. But if I don't touch it the day I will be awake all night 🫤

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was the style at the time.

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[–] jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

I made an edit that would be a direct response to this, but is lost to time (and me having a mental breakdown a few months ago). Speaking of which, @ummmthatguy@lemmy.world we need to get back in touch for methods for me to recover all of that.

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