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[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 63 points 10 months ago

If it's any decent brand it's lifetime warranty little questions asked.

[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh wow I didn't know that. They're from Crucial / Micron, also its DDR3L ECC RAM (8GB x 4) so hopefully they'll accept. Thank you for the information!

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

https://www.crucial.com/company/warranty

Looks like it's either a lifetime, or 10-year warranty depending on the model type.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Even if it's just 10 years there's a decent chance it's still covered. DDR4 came out just 9 years ago and there was a period where both were used commonly. Not sure how this applies to ECC, though

[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

Don't know about Crucial, but Corsair was like that when I needed it a few years ago.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Pin D10 tied to a high. Seen that, got my soldering people fix that.

[-] Lem453@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

I'm very curious how you figured that out from the screen shot?

[-] Hamknight@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Every value is off by the same amount

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

They're a fucking wizard that one.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Na, I just know how these things tick. I've written a RAM test for my system, and had to diagnose to one or other production error in my lifetime.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I wrote a RAM test for my system, and had to diagnose quite a few badly soldered boards. I leave the soldering to the specialists, though. All but one still does not understand how I can read "Resolder pin 14 from chip J11" or "Clean short between pins 8 and 9 on chip J14" from such a list.

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 37 points 10 months ago

I feel like a surprising number of people struggle with the meaning of "mildly"...

[-] blocker1980@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They always have

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 months ago

DDR3 was really hard to find the last time I went shopping for RAM.

I bet you can get at least another 5 more years out of that computer.

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/65726/intel-xeon-processor-e3-1275-v2-8m-cache-3-50-ghz.html

[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is actually a new build I just made with a Libreboot motherboard. I'm trying to turn it into a gaming computer, it ran GTA V at 70-80FPS, all high settings, at 1440p. It was working flawlessly, and for some reason now its not I suppose due to the RAM.

But even with this RAM, in the beginning it was working just fine until yesterday I started noticing more stuttering. Vulkan shaders might be interfering, but I did enable them to process in the background and to save the cache but nope, still stuttering.

I was hoping to do a benchmark video for people tonight but I'll have to wait until later next week.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago

Cool. You might check and double check the RAM timings. My machine did not like to run at 1600.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Looks like there's actually a stuck bit in those memory values. Might be more than just an unstable clock.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

I really only know enough about hardware to get by. I am working through nand2tetris though.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Red means good, right? Right?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 10 months ago

Well that's really not a surprise since it is old hardware. I would go for something newer as that machine is a space heater. You can pickup used mini PCs or workstations with newer CPUs in them.

[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Well, this build is specifically for gaming with Libreboot so due to the limitations with the motherboard I'm stuck using the Xeon processor. Its not bad tbh runs everything well.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Assuming you're in the northern hemisphere: For this winter it's fine. It'll gently heat your home while you game like it's 1999. No worries ๐Ÿ˜

However, once it starts to warm up you'll want to send that motherboard+RAM+CPU to your local HAZMAT trash pickup/facility and get something newer. Might I suggest a nice 2020-ish desktop CPU? With a motherboard that supports Coreboot, of course!

https://doc.coreboot.org/mainboard/index.html

...and get yourself a nice Nvidia (sadly, because AMD and Intel are still far behind) GPU with at least 12GB of VRAM so you can have fun with the open source AI stuff (it's a blast!). The more VRAM the better though so if you can pick up a 4060 Ti with 16GB cheap this spring that'll be your best budget buy (endless uncensored fun) ๐Ÿ‘

Seriously: If you haven't got the hardware to run Stable Diffusion locally you're missing out! It's as fun and addicting as a really good game. Running it on some cloud service isn't the same because at best they'll be running stuff that's weeks or months out of date (which is like a million years in AI time) and they don't give you the same level of control/possibilities that you get when running your own stuff locally (run whatever models/LoRAs you want, whatever extensions you want, generating images without having to worry about overbearing censorship because it is that bad on public AI services--paid or not!).

[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Oh I'm already using AUTOMATIC1111 on this computer with my RTX 2080 SUPER (using Debian GNU/Linux). It runs really good on it actually, I'm only using 8GB of VRAM too, It takes like 5-7 seconds to generate images, truly amazing stuff. I may be able to push out a video today or tomorrow, the computer can run just fine even with this current RAM issue.

I was just playing GTA V like 10 minutes ago and it ran well like 50-70FPS (sometimes drops to 40-45FPS depening on the area) on max settings 1440p, barely any stutters. I can run basically everything I need on it with Libreboot now. I'm selling off my main motherboard right now.

The only thing I can't seem to get running is local LLMs because my Xeon processor is AVX-only and not AVX2. I was trying to use GPT4All, I was able to use the UI and try to download a model, but aftering it finished downloading it crashes and I can't open it again. As far as I looked into it, its just the current limitation with my processor.

In the future I may start looking into using Dasharo firmware with the MSI Z690-A DDR5 since I want to use new models like Mixtral 8x7B, I heard it was really good. The older motherboard I'm using here is the Dell Precision T1650 motherboard from 2012, its only 32GB of RAM max, and newer models like Mixtral need up to 64GB of RAM.

I couldn't check the exact score of how much open-source code there is on here, I did have to inject blobs / vendor firmware into the libreboot.rom file. It should probably be more open than newer motherboards, considering its older, along with Libreboots blob reduction policy.

The only small problem I'm facing right now is for some reason I have to leave this computer on for like an hour to make my games run better. I open Steam and I guess just let the Vulkan shaders process in the background.

Also, I tried running NVIDIAs open source drivers and it didn't work for me. I couldn't passthrough my GPU to my VM (using KVM hypervisor) either. Maybe, this is just due to me using NVIDIAs full proprietary drivers or maybe I just suck lol I would like more people to try this out though.

Hopefully one day we can achieve even more freedom with better hardware, maybe with hardware like RISC-V =)

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Define "everything". Everything installed?

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[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 10 months ago
[-] K4sum1@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 months ago

DDR3 is a lot cheaper on Amazon.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

The cost is having to support amazon though.

[-] Neil@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it's not like making your life harder is going to kill Amazon, though. My lesbian co-worker and lesbian sister eat chik-fil-a sometimes for the same reason.

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[-] CCyan_9@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 10 months ago

Never buy electronics or related stuff from ebay. Never.

[-] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[-] riskable@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

No, don't rip! Gently remove the bad RAM from the PC.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Hey, at least they tested it.

[-] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I remember testing ram by compiling the Linux kernel. It was so resource intensive that it tended to use every block of memory, so if I was getting weird crashes or something I would just run a kernel build and see if I needed better diagnostics.

[-] naticus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I found out about 2 months ago I had a dead stick because of my Arch install. I kept having data integrity problems and thought my NVMe was dying. And then the other drive was having the same issues. I had reinstalled Arch so many times during this that I memorized ALL the steps from start to end. I really wish I had tested RAM earlier, but was so determined to believe it was the drives.

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[-] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 2 points 10 months ago

What a creative way to test memory. nice :)

[-] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
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