New Zealand Officially Recognizes Lobsters, Octopuses, Crabs as Sentient Beings : hackernews

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

Excuse me, but it recognizes all of us cephalopods as sentient beings, thank you very much.

Too bad this 'bnnbreaking.com' is literally the only source for this story.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Ok I had to Google this because I've never seen anything on squid intelligence. Octopus and cuttlefish, yes. Looks like squid got more going on than I'd previously thought.

I still need some convincing on decapods though.

Also, do you like own Lemmy or something? You're EVERYWHERE.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 7 points 10 months ago

Well, it's not surprising he gets around. He can fly after all.

[-] RIPandTERROR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

I loved him in Baldur's Gate 3

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

lemmy is free software running on federated servers. no one owns lemmy.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I own Lemmy all the time

[-] markstos@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, HN flagged and removed the link.

[-] CeruleanRuin 3 points 10 months ago

Is there a legal definition of sentience?

[-] Heavybell@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Dunno about legal, but I'm pretty sure the scientific bar for sentience is pretty low. You basically just have to have senses (e g. hearing, sight, etc) and react to stimuli to be sentient.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

New Zealander here. I've heard nothing of this and it's been a slow news week.

[-] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 10 months ago

Now that the bird of the century elections are over, I guess it's hard to get excited about anything else the rest of the year.

[-] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Also a New Zealander, looks like the "news" site is confusing New Zealand and the UK?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Welfare_(Sentience)_Act_2022

[-] Lionel@endlesstalk.org 27 points 10 months ago

Doing this to any animal—regardless of sentience—is straight fucked up. Nothing says selfish like torturing an animal to death so it tastes better. Make it quick.

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I'm vegetarian, so I'm not defending this at all, but as I understand it, boiling kind of is the best way to kill a lobster quickly. A friend of mine had a roommate who thought otherwise and tried to decapitate one for dinner. I don't know their biology well, but there's something about lobsters' brains spanning the length of their body, so it wouldn't die. Just horribly suffering and bleeding everywhere with a knife through its body. Tossing it in boiling water should near instantly kill it. All the water inside their shell steams immediately.

[-] THJr@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago

Unfortunately your roommate seems to have been using improper technique, this video shows how to properly do it.

As far as I know this is considered much less painful than boiling.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@startrek.website 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] C0unterfactual@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Consider the lobster

[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

I thought that was needed to avoid toxins or something.

[-] THJr@ttrpg.network 3 points 10 months ago

That's if you kill the lobsters hours before, generally nowadays it's considered more humane to kill it just before putting it into the pot.

[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Strange thumbnail. The actual title of the article says New Zealand too. Those wacky Pakistani journos!

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

BNN - a Fox News AI experiment /s

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not the Onion?

[-] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, yeah. The bar for sentience is very low. Sapience is a lot higher of a bar.
People have shown that plants can be sentient after all (they can feel pain at least, IIRC). So it makes sense that almost any multicellular organism above a certain amount of cells would be sentient.

[-] Dio@lemy.lol -3 points 10 months ago

Okay. So, put them to sleep then boil them. I am not missing out on my water scorpion food.

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