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[-] eporetsky@lemmy.world 73 points 10 months ago

I tried, but failed, to find the poll Loewenstein referred to when he was quoted saying: “There was a poll just this week that found 70-80 percent of Israeli Jews support...", regarding what the title claims. Please share if you have it, I find it hard to believe this poll exists.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is the only thing I could find

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/eye-on-palestine/gaza/poll-83-of-israelis-support-voluntary-emigration-from-gaza/2023/12/24/

The Direct Polls survey that was published last Thursday (Direct Polls: Gantz and Bibi Neck-and-Neck, Smotrich Beats the Threshold) included the question: “To what degree do you support encouraging the voluntary emigration of Gaza Strip residents?”

The response of 1,487 adults (18+) who are a representative sample of the general population in Israel, with a statistical sampling error of ± 3.9%, at a 95% probability, was overwhelmingly in favor of the idea.

68% support it strongly

15% are quite supportive

8% don’t really support it

9% don’t support it at all

[-] eporetsky@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Thanks! Seems close enough. I would still take anything coming out of Channel 14 with a grain of salt. It is considered to be Bibi's propoganda channel 🤷

[-] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Did you realize that "support" appears in each response ?

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Are you aware of the meaning of the word "not"?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

The other part that makes no sense:

"finding somewhere else for Palestinians in Gaza to be removed. Israel claims that this is somehow voluntary, which is nonsense."

Where should they be removed? How do you expect them to get there when the borders for Gaza are closed?

Feels like we've seen this movie before...

https://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears

https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/bataan-death-march

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Describing Gaza and the West Bank as reservations really helps Americans understand what Israel is doing.

[-] cranakis@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Seems like Al Jazeera should have cited it since they published the story but I cannot find it either.

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago

In other news, majority of Palestinians support the removal of Israeli settlers from the West Bank.

Maybe they could work out a swap?

But first, Hamas must be destroyed, and Hamas's supporter Netanyahu prosecuted.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 40 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wtf are you talking about, there is no swap to be made. Both Gaza and the entirety of the West Bank belong to Palestinians. There is plenty of land in Israel proper, the settlers should just GTFO.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Settlers Aka occupiers.

Amazing no one stop to ask where these "settlers" come from?

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago

Are you claiming that the last few decades we have seen the kind of Anti-semitism of the beginning of the 20th century that would justify a program of mass settlement of Jewish people on land outside Israel? Because that is a ridiculous thing to say.

There is no mass scale anti-semitism. Israel is not the safest place for Jews (north america is). Palestinian land is not needed for Jewish settlement, Israel proper has plenty plenty of land, enough to be proposing land swaps every now and then.

Israeli settlements are entirely indefensible and entirely a crime.

[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

Europe, and since they're so intent on genociding the native population like the other europeans who colonised the U.S, Canada, Australia and New Zealand did, it is time they go back home (Deutschland especially)

Remember there's always a place for Jews in Europe and the rest of the developed world, not so much for palestinians and other brown ppl.

[-] t0m5k1@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Hamas is an ideology. Even Israel recently stated this and said you can't stop an ideology. This dovetails perfectly into the sentiment of this article. Both together, plus idf actions show genocide is really what they want.

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[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Yeah, because they are genocidal lunatics.

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[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Surprise, surprise. Israelis want to genocide Gazans.

[-] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

No no, they just want some Lebensraum

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

"Removal", how exactly? Because doing it with bombs isn't very efficient so far. Are they looking into a final solution already? Fucking embarrassing...

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Well, you know how Nazi Germany dealt with their 'Jewish Problem'?

Israel is currently dealing with their 'Palestinian Problem'.

Zionists are Nazis.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

That's exactly what I was hinting, by using the term 'final solution'.

Thank you, for using the words 'zionists' as this is a zionist / Israel issue and not a Jewish issue. We can support Palestinians without being antisemitic.

Israel does EXACTLY what nazi Germany did. Apartheid, locking them up in ghettos, starving them, exterminate them.

We need a war tribunal for the entire Israeli government and IDF. IDF is like the SS, seeing how inhumane they are and the amount of horrible war crimes they commit.

All of that while Israel still dares to pull the holocaust victim card when anyone tells them to stop. Disgusting.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago

You bomb the infrastructure until the whole area is unlivable, then you graciously allow them to cross the border into Egypt. Textbook ethnic cleansing.

[-] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

The majority are brainwashed like in every country that is doing bad shit America included. The woke are few and far between. Most are eat the status quo and keep on trucking types. They will eat shit til they die and not care.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

For Israel, the goal is "from the river to the sea" - without Palestinians.

[-] febra@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago
[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Nazi's gonna Nazi

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 10 months ago

ha, is this a 'no shit' article or what. your 'country' is currently steamrolling over the entire area, razing it to the ground.

ya think??

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

This war should end with a Palestinian corridor the ensure connection between west Bank and Gaza

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Wonder if any of these Israelis will feel shame in 20 years after all this negative energy dies down.

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