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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

At least eight people have been diagnosed with measles in an outbreak that started last month in the Philadelphia area. The most recent two cases were confirmed on Monday.

The outbreak began after a child who'd recently spent time in another country was admitted to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) with an infection, which was subsequently identified as measles. The Philadelphia Department of Public Health considers the case to be "imported" but did not say from where.

The disease then spread to three other people at CHOP, two of whom were already hospitalized there for other reasons.

Two of those infected at the hospital were a parent and child. The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.

Despite quarantine instructions, the child was sent to day care on Dec. 20 and 21, the health department said.

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[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 174 points 11 months ago

Isn’t this criminal negligence?

Being told by a medical professional to quarantine and wantonly ignoring it is a lot like your mechanic telling you not to drive a car and you doing it anyway.

I don’t see why the family shouldn’t be held to account for every single infection they started by sending their kid to day care.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Except who will arrest them? The cops won't enforce mask or quarantine mandates. COVID fucked all that up.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 62 points 11 months ago

Just say that the kid had a mental breakdown. The cops will come in pronto and shoot the dog.

[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

They'll bring about 10 to 20 more people if you say he has marijuana or mushrooms too!

[-] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 41 points 11 months ago

Covid didn't fuck it up. Stupid conservatives did that.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If the government truly wants to enforce a quarantine, they can. Remember when the Ebola scare was a thing? I know someone who was caught up in that; They were required to do thrice daily temperature checks, and the CDC would randomly call a landline they set up, around ten times a day. On those calls, they had to report any potential symptoms for every single person in the household. The CDC made it very clear that if they didn’t answer the phone, the feds were coming inside with hazmat gear to verify they hadn’t snuck out. It was basically house arrest without the ankle monitors.

They had to have a very awkward conversation with their boss about it, because they were working as a lowly retail worker at the time. It was basically “hey uhh… You’ve seen the Ebola stuff in the news right? Yeah, I won’t be able to come in for a little while, because the feds say I’ll be arrested if I leave my house.”

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

Its tempting to rail against these parents but for the daycare part specifically let us not forget that people in America don't get free healthcare, and we dont get paid sick days. You take your kid to daycare not because you fucking want to, your American boss doesn't give a shit about your problems, he needs you in right now or you're looking for another way to feed your kids

[-] nulluser@programming.dev 53 points 11 months ago

True, but in this specific case,

The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.

This parent strongly deserves a good railing against.

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

...fuck that is pretty hard to defend

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[-] Jerb322@lemmy.world 137 points 11 months ago

Will the family of the child face any consequences? I'd be very angry if my son was infected and they knew all along. Like looking for revenge angry!

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago

The part where the parent refused medication that can prevent infection is awful too. Can you imagine being so against medicine that you both risk your child's life and risk leaving your child without a parent?

[-] Granite@kbin.social 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They believe in medicine to some degree if they were already at the hospital.

Edit: like those covidiots who only went in after the horse dewormer failed

[-] mars296@kbin.social 29 points 11 months ago

Yeah I don't understand why they would go to the hospital and then not accept the treatment. For a diagnosis? How can they trust the diagnosis if they don't trust the treatment?

[-] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

In the case of COVID at least, they went because they were literally drowning in their own mucus and didn’t have a choice. They only started refusing things when they woke up enough to be delusional again.

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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

At the very least CPS better be involved. I would definitely hope they take your child away if you'd risk your health, the child's health, and the health of other children like that.

[-] magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh 12 points 11 months ago

Yup, they'll get to run for Congress, probably.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 121 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The disease then spread to three other people at CHOP, two of whom were already hospitalized there for other reasons.

Two of those infected at the hospital were a parent and child. The child had not been vaccinated and the parent was offered medication usually given to unvaccinated people that can prevent infection after exposure to measles, but refused it, the Philadelphia Inquirer first reported.

Despite quarantine instructions, the child was sent to day care on Dec. 20 and 21, the health department said.v

It's shocking how far backwards we've gone with respect to basic science... When I was a kid, vaccines were a given. Nobody ever batted an eye.

Fuck Andrew Wakefield.

[-] cooljacob204@kbin.social 74 points 11 months ago

They should arrest the parents for negligence at this point. If any of the kids die they should get man slaughter charges.

[-] Lavitz 34 points 11 months ago

Agreed. They should be charged. Adults and unborn fetuses have more rights than children do. A woman can miscarry and get charged with abuse of a corpse, if I drink and drive and kill someone I go to jail but if I choose not to vaccinate my child and the child dies I get a pass?

[-] cooljacob204@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I agree but these assholes went beyond that and sent their sick kid with measles to daycare when they were explicitly told to quarantine. Like what the absolute fuck. It's beyond words how selfish and disgusting their actions are.

[-] GluWu@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

I don't see how this already doesn't amount to criminal negligence.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 104 points 11 months ago

Sending a child with a highly infectious disease that is as dangerous and potentially deadly as measles into a day care should be held accountable. This is reckless endangerment of other peoples' lives.

[-] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 35 points 11 months ago

The parents and the child were unvaccinated and the parents refused medication. I'd hazard a guess that they're on that anti-vax esoteric shit.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hopefully DCFS can investigate them then. They are endangering not just the lives of their own child but others too. I would be livid if I was a parent and these idiots got my kid sick.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Agreed. It would be nice if people weren't so pressured to go to work for money that they could take care of children rather than feeling like you need to abandon them for a job. I'm not saying they did this. But over 3/4 of my sick days last year was to take of my kid. And when I had COVID, I was out and the statutes to pay me were gone.

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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 49 points 11 months ago

If any subsequent children die due to this outbreak, charge the parents that sent the sick child to daycare with murder.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

...and apparently did not get the kid vaccinated and refused medication.

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[-] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Or charge them with reckless endangerment now and tack on manslaughter charges later.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 16 points 11 months ago

This should just generally be the case with vaccine refusal. If you refuse a vaccine and kill someone, that should be manslaughter

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 45 points 11 months ago

SSPE will fuck up your brain, you do not want measles spreading, get your vaccine if you're due for it.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

Unfortunately my wife cannot get the MMR vaccine. She essentially has to quarantine whenever there is a case in the area.

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ooof, they got the expensive disease. Measles ruins your immune system, which takes ages to rebuild. In a British study studying religious antivaxxers vs vaccinated children, there was a much higher cost incurred per child for years, lol. They got a lot sicker a lot more often and needed more prescriptions because of what measles did to them.

Measles is crazy infectious too, it's basically like the Flood pathogen from Halo. Getting it in your brain really bumps up chances of dying. Luckily the MMR vaccine gives you lifelong immunity, especially with two shots. So it's mostly just an anti-vaxxer penalty these days. Too bad we almost eliminated it if not for them.

https://youtu.be/y0opgc1WoS4?si=RP7W1uainbdzKc6m

[-] flicker@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

I actually had measles as a kid. My parents hadn't gotten me vaccinated when they were supposed to not out of any antivaxx nonsense but regular old neglect.

Lemme tell you. Whoever catches it? Highly unlikely they'll be antivaxx after that. Measles is probably the worst thing that ever happened to me and it's the reason I was the first in line every time I was eligible for a covid vaccine. Me and the old ladies who remembered polio needed absolutely zero convincing.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

People just don’t care about others anymore.

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Can we deport these deplorables yet? They're uncivilized and a burden on the tax payer funded system.

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago

Deport to where? Who would even take them?

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[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Who do these people work for? Their sick day policies bear a lot of the blame.

[-] bluGill@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago

Maybe, but a lot of people go to work when slightly sick despite their company having a good policy.

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[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

I know this isn't the point, but I'll never get over that something as big and expensive as world class hospital could be built and they named it "chop". No one said anything?

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