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I mean Star Trek is not much better (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by Stamets@lemmy.world to c/starwarsmemes@lemmy.world

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[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You Star Wars fans sure are a contentious people.

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're not a star wars fan until you HATE star wars.

(Although we finally got something good. Andor)

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i hate the parts of star wars disney ruined. there's a clear difference for me. pre- and post-disney star wars are completely different in terms of cohesiveness, even if the original lore was flimsy.

[–] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Episodes 7-9 were just a dumpster fire. No cohesion, no real plot. I blame everything on kathleen kenedy... holy hell i wish disney would replace her.

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

You just made an enemy for life!

[–] JimmyJamtastic@mastodon.social 3 points 2 years ago

@NakariLexfortaine @Stamets you have NO idea.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Every Fandom has its cringe.

Some people take it way too seriously and end up alienating potential audiences.

Just look at Rick and morty. It's a decent comedy if you're into crass humor. I'll admit I have seen most seasons. But you'll never see me wearing merch because I simply don't want to be associated with the crowd who scream at fast food employees over meme sauce. I happily wear my live long and prosper shirt or the Mando shorts my wife bought me though.

Some fandoms just take a little more digging to find the super shitty people.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

WUBBA LUBBA DUB DUB!!!

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

same with MHA. liked the show, but the fandom is on another level of cringe. i do recommend it to people, but i won't make it obvious that i really like it and have also read the manga.

[–] TheMongoose@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean Star Trek is not much better

What was it like before Disco came out? I know not everyone loved Enterprise, but was there always such a degree of animosity? I always thought Trekkies were generally pretty chill, especially compared to some of the assholes in the Star Wars fandom...

[+] Stamets@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

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[–] sleepdrifter@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hell of a write up Stamets!

[–] kaitco@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

As a newer Trekkie, I thoroughly appreciate this write-up; helps explain a lot of the things I see online these days.

I’ve only recently finished watching TNG for the first time and I’m going through DS9 now. It never occurred to me that people would have issues with a gasp woman CMO and with a bald captain, but it all just goes to show that people will always find something to gripe about.

For the most part, I mainly stick to the meme communities for Star Wars and Trek to avoid most of the vitriol. For Star Wars, don’t get me wrong, I’ll argue about the sequels all day, but it all gets old when people complain about the other stuff we’ve got from Disney and refuse to find anything even entertaining about the sequels.

I’m excited to continue on my Star…Trek 😅. Just started S3 of DS9, I’ll get into Voyager and continue from there. Time has shown meme, however, that the larger communities for these things just aren’t for me since I can’t find fault in every single thing that gets produced.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Strange New Worlds is legit amazing.

I need to find a source for Lower Decks.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I feel the same could be said about Stargate. (or any other "cult-esque" sci-fi) All three started out a bit shakey. SGU was just discontinued a bit too early; before the fan base really accepted it and grew.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Absolutely based write up Stamets, especially the part about the visual reboot. That's something that I've struggled with as a new Trek fan talking to older Trekkies. I see no incongruity with Disco's aesthetics compared to DS9, but rather an update. I've been shouted down on other forums for expressing that.

[–] Kepabar@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm one of those older Trekkies who will complain about the aesthetic choices of the DSC sets.

My view is that there is a certain style with sci-fi shows of this nature that are part of their identity.

Large swings in design choices are very distracting to the point of being off putting to me unless there is good reason for it.

One thing I absolutely applaud Disney for is how they've managed to modernize but still keep the 70s aesthetics in their Star Wars shows. And I wish Trek had followed the same path.

[–] MintyAnt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

Disco is like a movie budget in terms of production quality, it's insane. And I guess in terms of writing quality too? Since almost every nutrek movie sucked.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago

Enterprise was the television equivalent of the smell of a roadkill skunk being slowly roasted over a tire fire.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Star Wars fans did not ruin Star Wars. George Lucas' complete lack of people who could say no to him ruined Star Wars.

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Greed and Hubris!

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

What I think is ironic is that Star wars also has the silliest lore (which I like, I think it allows it to be more fun and creative), so when the fandom fights about it it's over totally ridiculous stuff.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But I'm a fan of Star Wars, LotR, and Harry Potter.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have you considered you hate yourself?

[–] Twitches@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I do

[–] jawa21@startrek.website 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love having this username on this instance. I punch myself regularly.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I assume they're also a regular on c/mycology but I don't want to check because I'd be super disappointed if they're not.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Speaking as a star trek fan, fight me.

Wait... Oh no

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I will never not dump Auralnauts..

Star Wars Saga: Ep. 1 - Jedi Party

Star Wars: Bass Wars Obi vs DJango

Dirk Lasermaster: The Last Laser Master

Fresh drop!

Zack Snyder's Star Wars - A New Hope

[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love Auralnauts so much! Aside from the Star Wars stuff, I really like Fictional Fight Commentary and the infomercial stuff.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

"Oh my! Some kind of green gas is coming out of the shell, and it's like kryptonite on Superman!"

But mostly, I am such a massive fan (MASSIVE FAN) of their music. Their mixing is sublime, and their music sounds like what I've tried producing my whole life. I'm old, I saw Daft Punk in 97 on a small stage, Prodigy were my last Laser Masters, but Auralnauts fill that void now. There is not a single tune of theirs that don't get me beatboxing and start dancing.... :) <3

[–] NESSI3@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Star wars ruined star wars

[–] george@lemmon.website 3 points 2 years ago

To adapt an asian proverb:
Me against Star Trek fans, me and Star Trek fans against LOTR fans, me and Star Trek fans and LOTR fans against the world.

[–] thefloweracidic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not even into star wars but star wars fans ruined star wars for me. Ahmed best is my liiiiiiiiiiiife.