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Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?

Real AI does not exist yet,
atm we only have LLMs (Large Language Models),
which do not think on their own,
but pass turing tests
(fool humans into thinking that they can think).

Imo AI is just a marketing buzzword,
created by rich capitalistic a-holes,
who already invested in LLM stocks,
and now are looking for a profit.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, AI term is used for marketing, though it didn't start with LLMs, a couple of years before, any ML algorithm was called AI together with the trendy data scientist job.

However, I do think LLMs are very useful, just try them for your daily tasks, you'll see. I'm pretty sure they will become as common as a web search in the future.

Also, how can you tell that the human brain is not mostly a very powerful LLM hosting machine?

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We have to work out what intelligence is before we can develop AI. Sentient AI? Forget about it!

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[–] callcc@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't worry, the hype will die sooner than later, just like with cryptocurrencies. What will remain are the power and resource hungry statistical models doing nice work in some specific domains, some long faces and some people having made a bunch of money from it. But yeah, the term also makes me angry, that's why I started referring to them as statistical models.

Am I the only one seeing a parallel between the spectrum planned <-> "free"-market economy and classical algorithm <-> statistical model/ML? It seems that some people prefer to have some magic invisible handle their problems instead of doing the tough work. I'm not saying that there is not space for both but we seem to be leaning on the magic side a bit too much lately.

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[–] aulin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

LLMs are AI. Lots of things are. They're just not AGI.

[–] VR20X6@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Right? Computer opponents in Starcraft are AI. Nobody sane is arguing it isn't. It just isn't GAI nor is it even based on neural networking. But it's still AI.

[–] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what makes them say LLMs are not AIs. These are definetely simulated neurons in the background.

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[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are not. The word predictor hype is real

[–] Nemo@midwest.social 4 points 1 year ago

AI isn't reserved for a human-level general intelligence. The computer-controlled avatars in some videogames are AI. My phone's text-to-speech is AI. And yes, LLMs, like the smaller Markov-chain models before them, are AI.

[–] liwott@nerdica.net 3 points 1 year ago

@Rikj000

which do not think on their own,
but pass turing tests
(fool humans into thinking that they can think).

How do you know that?

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only thing I really hate about "AI" is how many damn fonts barely differentiate between a capital "i" and lowercase "L" so it just looks like everyone is talking about some guy named Al.

"Al improves efficiency in..." Oh, good for him

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Sam sung something for Al I heard

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I got Proton to change their font for their password manager because of this.

I just happen to have a few generated passwords that contain both, plus the pipe symbol, and some of them I occasionally have to type manually.

[–] TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't they use different colors for capital vs lowercase vs number vs symbol?

Nope to the cases, but yes to the rest.

[–] KammicRelief@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right! Now I need to add extra clarification when I talk about Weird Al..

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

which do not think on their own,

Most humans don't either. But if think you are conflating two different things, intelligence (ability to reason) and consciousness (being able to do so on your own). I personally believe with both of those things, that spontaneously come to existence in our brains when they became complex enough, we are just quantitatively not very far away from creating networks complex enough ourselves. Big last breakthrough was the ability to create training data sets for AI with AI that don't make the models degenerate.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah real AI doesnt exist and we are not even close. But marketing is powerful. We should be saying language models.

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Depends on how you define it. A thermostat or PID controller is artificial, and intelligent enough to hold a comfortable temperature.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I saw a streamer call a procedurally generated level "ai generated" and I wanted to pull my hair out

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s really bugging me that it’s a catch all buzzword that combines any art on the computer into AI when there’s a very hard line from what makes digital art physically drawn by a human and what defines AI. It really annoys me that the whole actors guild cannot seem to understand what vfx stands for and what is AI. Vfx involves hundreds of humans with strong intention and artistic talent of doing literal back breaking work. The other is one wanky human with strong intention speaking loud in a room making shitty graphics that pales in comparison. This still isn’t ‘AI’. This is an asshole with too much power and thinks they are as good as an artist.

someone sketching on photoshop is a human generated image. And this has nothing to do with AI yet so many idiots sweep it into the same bin simply because a paint brush, which is still physically used by a human, was made from 1s and 0s

It also disturbs me me that people don’t hold people accountable for fake ‘AI GENERATED’ news stories or deep fakes and just shrug their shoulders calling it AI. like “oops, skynet is taking over”. No. That’s a human. A shitty horrible human, again, on a computer given too much power. No machine has intention. Only humans do.

If a mobster boss asks someone to take a hit out on someone, mobster boss goes to jail for just as much damage as a murderer. Probably even more so because it is intention. Meanwhile everyone pretends a computer itself is coming up with all this junk as if no human with terrible intention is driving at the wheel.

We gotta go back to naming names.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's an establish term in the field since the1950s.

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Get the new samsung blah blah with the new galaxy AI!!!. ENOUGH.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] dandroid@dandroid.app 2 points 1 year ago

I remember being upset about the exact same thing when 4G first launched.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mostly because every time I see the abbreviation I think it’s Al and not AI. And I briefly wonder if they mean Al Jolson or Al Capone.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Or my favorite, Weird Al

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes, but if they say "AI" then people give them money.

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