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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago

We really should put a limit on car sizes.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 56 points 9 months ago

Make them have a commercial license and pay for commercial transporting or something.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago

In the US at least, you need a CDL if you drive a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight greater than 10,000 lbs (4536 kg). The 2022 GMC Hummer EV weighs a whopping 9,063 lbs (4111 kg) so that's probably the largest vehicle a regular person would be able to buy.

[-] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That only matters if you're "for hire". I'm not aware of a single state or province where you can't drive a 45 foot long tour bus RV towing a double car trailer on a regular license. You can legally b-train trailers in lots of places. Giant truck + huge trailer + cargo trailer full of quads and side by sides is totally kosher.

Edit: I can go buy a Ford F750 and drive it like a pickup truck if I want. The Hummer is not nearly the biggest vehicle a normal person can buy and drive

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I drove a gigantic uhaul once that I was amazed I could with a normal licence.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

It is 3500kg in Germany for your regular driver's license (unless you got yours in the distant past) so that is probably one market that limits it a bit more here in the EU.

[-] ratman150@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I'm 99% sure it's 26,000lbs at least for a straight truck non combination.

Source: I used to be a CDL A holder

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

49 CFR Part 390.5

Commercial motor vehicle: means any self-propelled or towed motor vehicle used on a highway in interstate commerce to transport passengers or property when the vehicle—

(1) Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating, or gross vehicle weight or gross combination weight, of 4,536 kg (10,001 pounds) or more, whichever is greater; or

(2) Is designed or used to transport more than 8 passengers (including the driver) for compensation; or

(3) Is designed or used to transport more than 15 passengers, including the driver, and is not used to transport passengers for compensation; or

(4) Is used in transporting material found by the Secretary of Transportation to be hazardous under 49 U.S.C. 5103 and transported in a quantity requiring placarding under regulations prescribed by the Secretary under 49 CFR, subtitle B, chapter I, subchapter C.

[-] seang96@spgrn.com 1 points 9 months ago

Those tires must be expensive.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago

Tax by weight, easy peasy

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Or - hear me out - have pollution regulations that become more and more lax the bigger the vehicle is.

There is one, but it's outrageous. RVs like to push that limit.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 45 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Didn't the people of Paris vote in favour for charging triple car parking chargers for SUV's? I'd like to see this more.

SUV sales have been crazy the last few years in the UK (I assume the rest of the EU too given every manufacturer starting making many different models of SUV's). They stopped making people carriers in favour for SUV's :(

[-] ECB@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago

They did, but sadly only for non-residents.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

That's a shame. Still, it's a start.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 37 points 9 months ago

Does anyone else find it crazy how absolutely lazy people got? When i go shopping in a lidl, it has pretty good parking, the furthest spot is maybe 50m away. But there are always a few lazy asses who park right next to the entrance where there is no parking, the handicapped spot or the ev charging spot (without being disabled or owning a ev. Even worse in an underground parking where i sometimes go. These fuckers rather wait and block the lane to park as close as possible, while half the parking on the other side is empty, and the spot is quite literally 3 car lengths away, you don't have to wait to get in and you are closer to the exit where you also don't have to wait. Biggest pea brains park there i swear.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

I think people always were this lazy, but they were more considered to others.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 9 points 9 months ago

But there are always a few lazy asses who park right next to the entrance where there is no parking,

YES. In the US I've noticed tons and tons of people parking in the Fire Lane (in front of the entrances of stores in strip mall). It used to just be lazy asshats who left their partner in the car so they could move it if a cop came. But now every store has unattended cars in front. It makes driving through the shopping area hazardous as now the extra-wide 2-lane roadway is blocked by a car. It also makes it a lot harder to spot pedestrians since they have to weave through illegally parked cars and it appears as if the pedestrians are coming out of nowhere from behind a car.

I wish the stores would call tow companies and make all these people think twice about how lazy they are to not walk another 20 ft.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

There is also a big hardware store with 100+ parking spots and like 10 for for cars with trailers. The trailer spots are obviously closest to the store, and are always, ALWAYS occupied by anything but trailers or busses. Always some lazy fucks. I really wish they would enforce that shit. On the other hand i understand that they don't want to vother and talk to these people.

[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

the extreme laziness deteriorates their bodies over time. legs so fat it hurts to walk. ofc they park close.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

The funniest are the multi layer parking structures. I was parking on downtown under a large mall and people were blocking the way to wait for a "close parking spot" on B1. Head down to B3 and it's completely empty with spots right next to an elevator.

Like, that's not even lazy at that point, it's just dumb.

[-] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 26 points 9 months ago

12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American pride! Canyonero! Canyonero!

https://piped.video/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

I long so badly for a time where I can walk or train anywhere I need to go, and be rid of these monstrosities.

[-] bloopernova@programming.dev 8 points 9 months ago

Don't give them ideas!

[-] dropcase@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago
[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 7 points 9 months ago

That squirrel's nicked someone's help sign!

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Makes me think of those old cartoons where the filthy rich always had looooooooooooooong limousines

[-] vuldovahkiin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

That's a huge squirrel. Of course I'll support degrowth wtf.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

SUVs are a new plague :(

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago

The 6000 SUX. Because bigger is better.

[-] TheDarkestShark@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I heard the next gen EV Wagoneer is gonna be over 10,000 lbs, the battery alone is almost 3,000.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Idk, it'll be close, but the ice version is only 6000lbs.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Oh good, for a second I thought I was going to hear more about degrowing the economy to save the environment or whatnot. Yes, this degrowth I can get behind.

[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The only huge vehicles I'm really seeing now are all trucks, not SUVs.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I see tons of big SUVs but I haven't noticed them getting that much bigger. Maybe they are and it's a trick of perspective. But trucks appear like they are getting MUCH bigger. It's obscene and disgusting. Compact cars can reasonably tow 1,200lb loads. These gigantofucking trucks are not needed. People aren't pulling and storing tens of thousands of lbs of load every day. And if they are they need to register their damn business.

[-] papabobolious@feddit.nu 10 points 9 months ago

Every car segment has grown. Each size tier grew to the size of the next tier. Small cars are pretty much extinct and the cars that are marketed as small are the size of what used to be a medium car.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Compact cars can reasonably tow 1,200lb loads.

Assuming your trailer has brakes some can easily do double that.

[-] biddy@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

Yep. Toyota Corollas since 2002 have braked towing capacity of 1300kg. What do you fit in a normal trailer that's heavier than that anyway? Unless you're an incompetent landscaper that's constantly hauling gravel and dirt to and from job sites I can't think of why 1300kg wouldn't be sufficient.

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

I guess most people have a second job as a landscaper, floor tiler, stone mason or plumber. /s

[-] glomag@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

People aren’t pulling and storing tens of thousands of lbs of load every day.

Hey, speak for yourself ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

Where i live suv's absolutely exploded. We only have really small parking spots or tight underground parking, seeing all these vig ass cars down there is pretty funny.

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