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With the advancements in technology, particularly AI now, what is the smartest smartphone in your opinion? And I don't mean in terms of raw power or tech specs, but rather the likes of the OS, UI, or features and functions.

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[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 59 points 8 months ago

You’re going to have to be more specific or this will turn into a shit thread of Apple vs Samsung vs niche models.

[-] Gamera8ID@discuss.online 33 points 8 months ago
[-] DeltaBravoNiner@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I agree with a headphone jack

[-] nobody158@r.nf 0 points 8 months ago

Remove that /s and I agree, my current phone doesn't have one but there are days I wish it did. Same for laptops no longer having a DVD drive.

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

True. The smartest phone would probably just be a computer at that point.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I want a phone that folds like a brochure.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

The Fairphone probably, as it'd be pretty dumb to unnecessarily use materials from child labor and other inhumane conditions where available.

It follows from this that even smarter is to just keep using the phone you are using instead of upgrading, of course.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Entirely depends on the software you install on it?!

I mean the OS and UI don't give you "smartness". And I'm not completely sure about the definition. I for example think it's smart not letting big tech companies steal all your data. So I might choose a different OS and different Apps than somebody else.

Concerning AI: I think ChatGPT runs on all of them. And I think all the assistants also run more or less in the cloud and don't depend on the exact phone model. However, there are AI things that run on the phone itself. Camera picture enhancement and speech recognition for example.

Manufacturers often advertise with new AI features and unlock them on their newest flagship models. So the answer to your question regarding AI in preinstalled apps is probably: The current most expensive flagship models of Google/Samsung/Apple. One will have a slightly better camera AI, one a better photo editor and one a better AI assistant.

[-] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 4 points 8 months ago

You nailed it, the question is far too vague to be meaningful.

I consider my phone not giving away all my data to be smart.

Someone else might think smart is giving away all your data so AI can make sense of it and improve the convenience.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

This is like asking "what computer can run Doom the best?"

My dude, they all can.

[-] 13esq@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Right.

It's absolutely not worth buying the latest and greatest flagships anymore. The experience to the user is almost identical whether you're spending £1000 or £300.

Personally I'd much rather spend that £700 difference elsewhere and just buy a new phone that's a couple of generations old.

[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Any phone that can run GrapheneOS, which is arguably the most secure full-featured (as in: all the functionality you'd expect in a modern smartphone + compatible with popular mobile apps) mobile OS right now.

GrapheneOS is heavily focused on protection against attackers exploiting unknown (0 day) vulnerabilities. They employ techniques such as attack surface reduction (stripping out unnecessary code, disabling insecure components etc); using hardened system components (such as the kernel) that makes it much harder for hackers to exploit; and finally using sandboxing technologies (eg per-website browser sandbox, app sandboxing, media codec sandboxing etc).

A more interesting thing is the sandboxed Google Play Services support, which allows the option to use Google apps (such as the Play Store) in a fully sandboxed environment without granting them any special privileges.

You should check out the full feature set, it's a LOT more impressive than what I hastily summarised above.

This focus on both privacy and security, with minimal negative impact to the user experience, IMO makes GrapheneOS probably the smartest choice for users concerned about mobile security and therefore, phones which run GrapheneOS (currently only Google Pixel phones) would be the smartest smartphone.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Fairphone. Most forward thinking. Perhaps that isn't smart. Perhaps it is wise.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Even better: it's intelligent.

[-] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

The one you can keep for at least 5 years and still receive updates. I'm rocking a OnePlus 7 pro with crdroid 10.2 (android 14). No need to change unless it dies or 4g stops performing.

[-] DeltaBravoNiner@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

That's fair, I'm still using the Blackberry Key2, because it has a physical keyboard

[-] Addv4@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yep. Still rocking my Samsung note 8, works fine for what I need it to do (listen to music/audiobook, make calls, text, and occasionally browse the internet).

[-] Gamera8ID@discuss.online 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

particularly AI

The Google Pixel 8 Pro is the only phone I am aware of where local AI capability was mentioned heavily in its marketing. (It's also the only phone that is produced by a current leading company in the AI space.) I italicized "marketing" because my understanding from what I've been reading is that a lot of deeper Gemini AI integration won't come until the P9P, though it might be possible to be backported to the P8P.

[-] DeltaBravoNiner@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I will admit, I'm quite outdated in terms of the phone industry at the moment, I just assumed with all the different AI tech over lock of few years might have been implemented into smartphones. Every day is a school day!

[-] Gamera8ID@discuss.online 2 points 8 months ago

Most of it happens "in the cloud." From an article I just saw posted on Lemmy:

The Gemini LLM comes in three model sizes: Nano, Pro, and Ultra. Only the Nano model is small enough to run locally on high-end Android devices like the Pixel 8 Pro and the Galaxy S24 series, whereas the other two models run on Google’s cloud servers.

https://www.androidauthority.com/gemini-nano-ai-article-summaries-3425331/

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 8 months ago

I'll have to go for PinePhone.

Quite underpowered, but the available software... It seems it's like having a Raspberry Pi in your pocket.

But I don't know what you really mean by "smartest". It could also mean a phone that oversimplifies thing for its user.

[-] DeltaBravoNiner@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I left that open to interpretation, as I think people have different definitions of smart. I'm in a similar mind that a "smart" phone makes tasks easier for the user. Or as someone mentioned, security and privacy features with Graphene. Just opening up for discussion

[-] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 5 points 8 months ago

A Pixel with grapheneOS? Get full control of your phone.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

My Nokia flip phone from 2001.

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago
[-] li10@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago

I don’t know how much I even want from a phone these days. Just seems like things have stagnated in the mobile market for the past few years.

I honestly don’t know what I enjoy more about my current phone compared to the one I had 10 years ago.

They can be used for communication, payments, maps, music, YT and browsing the web. I think I’ll just get a small, cheap phone next time, as it’ll still check all those boxes.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

One without stupid bullshit on it.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Os,ui,features: one of the iphones with lidar.

Functions: it depends on what you see yourself doing. I keep an android phone for the second number and using as a usb drive, sd card reader, other computer crap. It’s rare that i use it though, the circumstances where i want to host pxe boot or something and don’t have a computer are few and far between.

Ai: I don’t know. Most of it is done in the cloud so the phone doesn’t actually matter.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Money is no object?

It’s not even a phone, it’s a personal assistant service.

[-] drawerair@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Pixel 8 pro or Samsung s24 ultra

Please view Marques Brownlee's review of each if you want.

[-] SharkMommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago

The best camera is the one you carry with everywhere you go

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Probably an android phone with lots of RAM and a good graphic card that can run offline a bunch of AI models, such as LLMs, image generators, etc.

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