If someone says their favorite tv show/movie is any of the ones pictured here, the next question should always be “Why?”
What movie is top right? And who the heck idolizes Patrick Bateman? What is there to idolize? His skincare routine? His music tastes?
What is there to idolize?
His business cards, obviously
I suspect idolisation by reflection. When Patrick Bateman is one upped socially he turns into a liquidy angry mess, thus serves as a reflection of how some autists feel when they're out of their element socially or emotionally.
...and I think there's something for autistic people to idolize in the fact that he just goes on, regardless of his disassociative breaks from healthy socialisation.
No, he's not a healthy model, but I can understand people feeling something is reflected there.
Of course in actual fact it's satire of the high society side of the 1980s patriarchal finance bros... But post modernism dictates that each individual will have their own interpretations.
Top right is Don Draper from Mad Men. He's an incredibly dysfunctional 60's businessman.
And Patrick Bateman is...weirdly relatable to a lot of autistic loners (like myself), if you can overlook the murder and complete insanity.
Do NOT emulate Bateman's skincare routine, you'll overexfoliate yourself into eczema. I am speaking from experience.
Good to know. Fortunately, I am far too lazy for that. Cleanser and moisturizer will have to do lol
That's Don Draper.
Add the Fallout series to the mix, lol
Kinda? The Fallout series definitely attracts these kind of people, but the message of the games go completely over their heads. Because they can play out their facist fantasies, they don't realize how those routes are showing what's fucked up about that kind of thinking. If they could realize that sort of thing, they wouldn't be have those sorts of fantasies in the first place.
That's my point, fascists idolize factions like the Enclave, Legion, or even Brotherhood, despite overt text and subtext decrying their views. The Fallout series as a whole is leftist, but is well-known for having a large subset of the fan base that is overtly fascist.
If we're bringing up Fallout, then Warhammer has to be in the mix. *And Starship Troopers/Helldivers while we're at it.
This is why it's important to ask "Why do you love that?" Starship Troopers and Helldivers can be seen as fascist by those who don't see deeper meaning in things. But both are satire, making fun of the thing by showing how it works and how ridiculous it looks. No one acts like a person, they talk like a movie trailer. Well adjusted folk will understand what they like and be able to elucidate it clearly. Idiots will parrot broad generalities and be unable to explore why they like that stuff (or they realize they are a monster and get defensive about it).
The Starship Troopers movie was self aware - the writer-director combo also worked on Robocop and that is pretty unambiguous about regulatory/corporate capture and malfeasance.
The book however… Heinlein was a weird political mix of right winger who had an open mind about hippies, but he uncritically promoted a militaristic society as a virtue, a permanent junta as a normal thing, and absolutely brushed up to fascism.
hey, scarface is solid, it is about a man who achieved everything he wanted, but because he was an asshole and fell into hubris, his life ended corresponding to this. Guy commits crime then recives punishment for it.
Breaking bad is telling that even such a weak man as Walter White can become a horrid monster if he won't tame his pride and ego and let them guide him.
The Jocker is a commentary on what the hostility of modern society could do, and how unwelcoming it is, especially towards people with issues, mental and parental ones.
The other ones I either haven't watched, or i had, and totally agree with your opinion on them, for instance, Rick and Morty is a shallow pseudointellectual show with stupid jokes whose main hero, not antihero, mind you, hero, is a psycho which does what he wants. Its agressive and childish nihilism disgusts me. Fight Club doesn't, but if its your favorite, you must be 15. I can absolutely see why lots of people like it though
You hit the nail in the head. It’s not that these can’t be your favorite pieces of media. Just that it’s key to make sure you’re dealing with a person that doesn’t think these people are role models. Protagonist ≠ hero. But if someone says they loved Taxi Driver because they want to be like Travis or that Rorschach was wronged, they’re probably not the type of person you want to keep as company.
Fight club. It’s an incredible movie that the vast majority of fans like for the wrong reason.
I like seeing people get hit in the face.
Do you want to destroy something beautiful?
Isn't that the 30seconds to mara guy who is a miserable twat because he method acts? If so, he seems deserving.
The thing you have to realize is that the Conservatives have been moving the goalposts for decades.
When he was alive, Martin Luther King was considered a hard core Communist revolutionary whose goal was the complete destruction of the American way of life. There were public burnings of Beatles records. Hell, early in the Reagan administration, The Beach Boys were kept from singing at a national July 4 event because a Cabinet member thought they were dangerous radicals.
They can play off that Star Trek Original series was okay, but newer versions are walking away from the original intent.
(Re)Appropriation is practically a part of the job description for these chucklefucks. Things mean what they want them to. And while that's part of how one enjoys art, in this context its routinely used to hurt people and contrary to the author's (sometimes clearly documented) intent.
Example: Using Rage Against the Machine at a conservative political rally.
Message: It's our rage and your machine now.
Add Fallout to that list, haha. Too many fascist fans of a leftist game series.
"So whats your opinion on The Boys?"
Don’t tell me people side with Nazi superman?
They cried the show "went woke" when Stormfront was revealed to be a Nazi and a horrible person. Not that she was a Nazi, but because she was bad.
Back on reddit I once mentioned that Star Trek was a Marxist post scarcity society in a center conservative sub. It wasn't my point, I just mentioned it like mentioning the sky is blue. I got down-voted to oblivion and tens of replies 'correcting' me.
Conservatives have an equivalent lore.
It's called Handmaid's Tale.
As do libertarians.
It's called Mad Max.
All we're talking about is reveling in the future our respective philosophies want to see.
youre telling me that if I vote for a libertarian candidate then I can ride eternal, shiny and chrome?
Evidently some portion of Colbert Report viewers didn’t know his character was a bit…
What's the meaning behind the white and blue hearts in the profile name?
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