It’s insane to me that they’re not charging him with treason in the documents case. There are ties to Russian intelligence as well as sale of confidential submarine plans.
It's strategic. Why set the bar any higher than it needs to be to put him away for life?
That’s a fair point, but only treason would exempt him from holding office again.
Put him behind bars, THEN charge him for treason. Make him show up to court in handcuffs and an orange jumper, to match his face.
Dude is gonna look like Palpatine when he can't get bronzer anymore.
To set an example for the next treasonous, racist piece of shit that the GOP nominates.
And maybe as a warning for Clarence Thomas and company.
And maybe to pave the way for charging Kushner and the rest of Trump's nepotistic administration.
See, there are lots of reasons to throw the book at Trump.
But a disturbing amount of Lemmy is ready and willing to risk making him President because of one issue that Trump would also do nothing to fix.
*Because of one issue that Trump explicitly said he would do much much worse with
I'll never fucking understand it. They claim to care, but he will be substantially worse, and also make their lives directly worse on top of it.
I get it. Nobody wants to actively vote for a guy supporting genocide. But they need to grow up and realize that if they can't make a good choice, they need to make the better choice, no matter how much it sucks that we're at this point.
One supports it (probably because he can't please everyone)
The other would gleefully assist in the genocide
I think Biden would please a lot more people if he just didn't pick a side. Nobody I talk to, no matter where on the political spectrum they land, likes him supporting Israel.
Sad how shortsighted we as a nation have become
Nailed it.
I'm not continuing to participate in this failed system brah!
Seems to be the best argument they can come up with... As if 4% voting third party would make a difference except to help elect a full on fascist
I was about to say "Holy shit, that's impressive. I need a source for that" and you got one ready. Good job, OP!
If anyone thinks that the CIA and deep state is still secretly controlling the United States, picking the leaders, influencing media to present only the narrative that they want to see presented... well, now you got your answer. They're not. If they were, every single TV news show every single night would be running stories about this kind of thing, and good things Biden has done, and associates of Trump who need to be in prison who aren't yet.
The irony is that some version of that influence and control campaign actually is happening now, on behalf of other countries, on social media. Their propaganda is getting presented front and center and getting tons of traction, and the US is in the unusual position of playing catch up on the influencing-mass-opinion game.
I feel there's an element in the CIA that's totally OK with Trump being in power, because it means they get everything green-lit (or Trump simply handwaves them gaining semi-autonomy again, like the bad old days). Remember, the years where they could simply launch a completely unauthorized coup in a foreign country are still within living memory, and well within institutional memory, and I'm sure there's enough spooks that absolutely want that sort of power back.
I think it's more like the CIA is just running a completely different game. They wouldn't dare want to bring any attention to themselves. The last thing they want is national scrutiny, even if it begins with the public on their side all it does is open the door for more probes and questions about where their money goes and what they've been doing.
Maga: OK, but look what Biden did!!
What did he do?
Maga: OMG how can you not know sheeple?
Ok, but what did he do? Did he leak classified information? Did he try to overthrow our government?
Maga:...
he's old!!!
i think beyond possibly getting paid for it, trump also wanted to pull a kissinger except with russia this time.
also the fact he isnt already in jail gives me strong "not a real democracy" vibes from the US.
He's checks notes creating jobs!
Creating job openings***
Just in case anybody doesn't know, and really just for the fun of saying it, the reason he'd help putin is that putin most likely has a recording of trump having sex with underage russian girls... also something about getting peed on as well.
Non-"presidential" material, in any case.
To give Trump a bit of credit, I cannot see his ego being willing to suck a dick as hard as he's sucking the russian's without there being an absolute need to stoop that low. But maybe he's just a grade A POS instead of the second-rate hack he appears to be.
Is that any worse than stuff he's actually done? I don't see why he'd care about this particular instance of being a thunder cunt.
And the so called patriots are cheering him on. What a world we live in.
The absolute devastation to peace in Western Europe if this fuckwad wins in November. WW3 incoming
I recall back in the day that Dutch intelligence agencies hacked their way into cameras in the buildings of the cozy bear hackers that hacked the DNC. they shared their findings with the US and then Trump used that info publicly to try and kick the Democratic party. This in turn caused the hacks to be fixed, and the Dutch agency losing their access. There is some more detail about it that I don't recall, but I do recall the director of the Dutch agency stating they would no longer share information like this with the US as they can't be trusted with it.
I mean I can imagine him doing that, but wyere source?
Plenty of articles on Trump his private meetings with Putin. A short one: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/trump-putin-meetings.html
The CIA circumstantially complaining and warning their agents of an increase of dead informants: https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/575384-cia-admits-to-losing-dozens-of-informants-around-the-world-nyt/
Apart from leaking, Trump also erroneously declassified secret documents, leading to the disappearance (and likely deaths) of some informants. Best case was that the western agency was able to extract their informant in time, but that still means that there is 1 less informant. Here's one case, but there were more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sources-disappeared-after-trump-declassified-ex-spys-evidence-uk-court-told
Trump his public obeisances towards Putin are also clearly recognizable as such. Trump Putin meetings are not meetings of equals, but one is clearly there to do the bidding of the other.
Put 1, 2, 3 and 4 together and there are many who believe that it was Trump who purposefully gave top secret information to his master. Including basically all western spy agencies, who now no longer can trust the USA with secret information. Trump is a traitor and everyone knows it.
Why then wouldn't the CIA just whack Trump like they did Kennedy?
They arent nearly as fucken nuts as they once were, that was the same era where they were dosing eachother with LSD.
Fredo Corleone would have figured out that, as President, he was in a much stronger position and could extort billions from Putin.
Any Scooby-Doo villain would have figured it out.
James from Team Rocket would have figured it out.
Why? Cash money! The Orange Turd and Traitor is a fucking Russian FSB agent. When he was yapping about his trade war with the EU, the German police raided the Deutsche Bank HQ in Frankfurt looking for documents tracing Russian money flowing through Cyprus. Guess who received a loan from Deutsche Bank? The Orange Turd and Traitor. I'm certain Chancellor Merkel called Don, told him STFU about a trade war with the EU or the information gets released.
Fuck Trump and fuck the CIA. The world would be better off if both completely stopped existing.
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