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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 56 points 6 months ago

I seem to recall someone else who started with "deporting" everyone of a certain ethnicity.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Its not about ethnicity, it’s about immigration status! Like how it wasn’t a Muslim ban because he added one or two non-Muslim majority nations to the list!

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 22 points 6 months ago

In all seriousness, we all know which people are going to have to prove their citizenship and which people are not. I can easily imagine that "certain people's" legitimate paperwork (papers, please) would even be "doubted," giving pretext to imprison them for an indeterminate amount of time.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Everyone will have to prove their citizenship if they're deemed to be enemies of the fasc.

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

I think it's so ironic. The people who I associate strongly with conservatism, farmers, exploit immigrants the most. Why do they fight immigration? Just for someone to hate?

[-] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 6 months ago

Hey also flight documentation check laws. Most employers have to validate your eligibility to work, farmers do not. They can also pay substantially less to illegal immigrants and depend on this. They do not want them to have a legal path because that will cost them money. The system only works for them if they are illegal.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago

If immigration is difficult, then most immigrants in the country working will be illegal. That makes them easier to exploit because they will fear deportation.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes. Scapegoating is easier than accepting reality in many cases

[-] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 30 points 6 months ago

If they are undocumented, how does he expect to find them?

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago

By sending thugs door to door demanding “papers”…

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It is unironically a good time for people concerned about being persecuted to buy a firearm, learn how to use it, and make a real, meaningful contingency and escape plan if things truly do go to shit (ideally, try to make at least a couple, as you do not want a single point of failure).

I live in Boston, a “safe blue” city. I arrived at this decision when a couple hundred neo-Nazis started marching around Copley square and back bay a couple years ago. The cops were conspicuously “absent” (read: I’d bet money some of the cops were marching with the neonazis). There are more than a few videos recording indefensibly chummy interactions between uniformed officers and proud boys / 3%ers / other fascist and supremacist groups over the last 8 or so years. Also, NSC 131 (neo-Nazi group which operates out of eastern MA) will come down and hang fascist white supremacist shit off the bridge that goes from the city to the Charles River waterfront over Storrow.

[-] thisisnotgoingwell@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

Undocumented is kind of a funny term, because the government basically says "we're not giving you permission to legally acquire employment because you're not supposed to be here, but if you DO find employment, pay taxes using this ITIN number(pseudo social)"

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That’s somehow more humane than his previous immigration policy, where parents were deported so their detained children could be physically and sexually abused by ICE.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/27/us/immigrant-children-sexual-abuse.html

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

Inb4 someone says “Biden still locks up migrant children.” No, ICE temporarily detains unaccompanied minors until they can locate the closest relative. This typically means detention for a week or two. That is not the same as forcible separation of families.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 8 points 6 months ago

No, both sides are exactly the same. /s

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

He promised that in 2016 too, are we in rerun times now?

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

This reminds me of a joke.

Two guys are sitting in a bar watching the 6 o'clock news. There was a report of a suicidal person threatening to jump from a bridge. One guy turns to the other, "Bet you fifty bucks he jumps." The other guy thinks for a second and says, "You're on." Lo and behold the person does end up jumping. The first guy turns to the second and says, "I'm real sorry. I can't take your money. Truth is I saw this on the 5 o'clock news so I knew he was going to jump." The second guy is having none of it, "No no. Fair is fair. I saw the same thing. I just didn't think he'd do it again."

I feel like a bunch of Trumpettes are the second guy. They are watching with rapt attention thinking Trump surely wouldn't fail as hard the second time.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I get the emotional appeal for many people, but the logistics are mind blowing. Hell, instead of moving them out, let's just kill 'em all. And look at the infrastructure the Nazis had to come up with.

But let's roll with it! It won't be two weeks until industry is screaming for workers. Look at the anti-immigrant bill we passed in Florida. Migrants evacuated the state and left the farmers, hoteliers, nursing homes, etc., holding the bag. "Well shit man, we just meant to scare 'em. We didn't want them to actually leave!"

Wife's an immigrant, Filipina. All the people she supervises at the major beach hotel are Mexican. ALL of them, the entire housekeeping staff, no exceptions. Imagine all those people running for the hills. That's one business, one industry, one town. Oh, and much of the rest of the staff is Pilipino.

And good luck getting a roof. Haven't seen a white boy among 'em. Knew one guy who owns a successful roofing business. When he needs some extra labor, he tells the guys to run down to Home Depot first thing and grab some "beaners" out the parking lot. (Yes, exactly like The Concrete Jungle except construction men instead of meat packers.) And he sees zero issue with voting GOP, and doesn't want immigrants around.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

If they wanted to "solve the illegal immigration problem" they'd fine the absolute dog shit out of anyone employing them. But they don't want that. They want them terrified to go about town or head to the doctor. But they still want them doing cheap labor.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Alternative headlin: Trump deports entire Mar-a-lago staff.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Another: Nation's produce rots in the fields; doctors predict scurvy outbreak.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 months ago

That would completely destroy our economy.

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

And someone saying "what about the economy" actually has a good point.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Something history something repetitive something who cares only nerds payed attention in school.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Extra extra, Trump promises something racists embrace but will never accomplish.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Like how he achieved the Muslim travel ban? Or how he almost got the citizenship question on the census?

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Shit he did do some of it...most mostly it is an idiot screaming comfort terms for racist ass racists

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If he went back another decade Chinese folks would be, by and large, refused entry.

In 1943, Chinese immigration to the United States was once again permitted—by way of the Magnuson Act—thereby repealing 61 years of official racial discrimination against the Chinese.

[-] whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

I read that Chinese survivors of the Titanic were turned away from the US because of the Chinese exclusion act.

[-] user1234@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 months ago

Can't we just deport him instead?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Bro Mar a Lago would collapse.

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