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Let both burn
The problem with Tesla really is Elon.
If he sells his majority stake, I suspect it would be a lot better.
The biggest reason against buying them is him. They also make more than cars (their powerwalls seem alright).
If X fails though, I suspect all those bigots will flood over to here (Facebook and X seem to be distracting them for now).
Let them have their nazi prison. Just make it not profitable
Personally I'd be wary of putting a giant brick of lithium in my house, especially from a company with the questionable quality control of Tesla.
I agree partially, but in practice, the LFP batteries should be fine (I would never trust the PowerWall 2).
Unfortunately, been looking at other alternatives, and there don't seem to be many seamless home batteries that cut in instantly in the event of a power outage (like an online UPS) either.
The reality is though, I expect Tesla to lose this market anyway (they only just introduced the PowerWall 3 in AU.. Even cheap chinese manufacturers have been using LFP for a while)
The people who aren't buying Teslas because they hate Musk aren't gonna change their mind because he sold some stock. The company is tainted forever.
They won't a tiny amount.. But controlling share they might.
I can't afford a Tesla. However, my biggest concern is that musk will half arse firmware or sabotage the company somehow.
If he doesn't have controlling share, that's a win and I suspect quality control will likely improve too
Not forever. Just as long as he has a share of it.
...he didn't found the company, engineer the cars, systems, nor infrastructure: there's a lot of salvageable value in tesla if he goes away...
The only real engineering he's done is likely the boring company (who the duck wants to drive in a claustrophobic one lane tunnel) and the submarine thing the cave divers said wouldn't work (so he called them pedos)
He didn’t engineer anything because he doesn’t know how. At most he drew some kindergarten levels drawings on a white board.
The reality is.. He is an engineer. Not all engineers have good ideas.
The difference is, he won't accept criticism
I do software development and have had a few crap ideas (I once thought I could make a optimised OpenGL library using Matricies). The difference between normal people and him, is that when I got told it was a crap idea, I deleted the project. When he gets a crap idea, he attacks the person giving feedback, so there is NO incentive to provide anything but good feedback
When you're surrounded by yes men you'll only increasingly become over confident in yourself
No, Elon isn’t an engineer. He doesn’t have an engineering degree from an ABET certified school, no FE or PE license, nor does he understand basic engineering or design principles.
You can lick his boots and lie all you want, but Elon is a rich bitch trust fund baby who takes credit for the ideas of others and you defend him. It’s honestly sad, coming from a mechanical engineer, that you as someone who works in software development, would call him an engineer.
I mean i am too poor and don't need a car but i could see myself buying a tesla once elon really is gone and the other two factors change for me.
The board is filled with Elon sycophants equally as stupid as him.
Having worked with Tesla I can tell you not all their problems would leave with Elon, but it would certainly be a great start.
From my understanding he overworks people. Is that correct?
If he sells it all, I'll buy a Tesla the next day. Until then, dinosaur bones for me. Unless an economical and very powerful aftermarket swap parts become readily available.
I wouldn’t. The board is filled with Elon sycophants. Tesla manufacturing remains subpar.