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I'm fairly certain if this is allowed, that's curtain call. He doesn't control those pursestrings, as they were laws passed by Congress.
ie, this is illegal.
So was withholding the ATGMs for Ukraine in 2019
And so was Jan6. And here we are.
So, if it is illegal, what's going to be done about it?
The republicans won't turn on him, the Democrats don't have the numbers to impeach, and the SCOTUS rule against him.
There are other options than impeachment. Every time Biden had an EO it was immediately taken to the courts and put on hold until the courts could overrule it. Where are the law suits against trump's EO's?
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-lawsuits-list-executive-orders-doge-citizenship-2018514
Well, now I have my donation list for the next four years (everyone suing him). Those that accept them anyway.
They’re coming, they’re just not instantaneous. The question is, will the courts offer any real resistance? I am unsure.
"We will make it legal."
-SCOTUS
Listen I hate Trump and basically everything he stands for. However, the executive has wide latitude in doling out, dividing up, and distributing funds. Congress writes a check and it's up to the executive to implement the plan. The executive is a gigantic sprawling bureaucracy that exists as a necessity because Congress writes laws in "broad" strokes and leaves the minutiae up to the many executive agencies.
is this horrific? Yes. Is it unconstitutional? I have significant doubt
e: from another comment I made
If the president can just order all executive employees to do whatever the hell he wants them to then congress is basically irrelevant and we live in a dictatorship. This is extremely serious.
Of course I agree, but I said I wasn't sure his actions were strictly unconstitutional.
Reading further, it seems I'm wrong:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-funding-freeze-blatant-violation-constitution-federal-law/story?id=118183957
Gotcha I realize I was kind of emotionally riffing there and didn’t really address what you were saying. Thanks for sharing the new link and correction.
This whole thing has made me pretty scared and angry to be honest.
Congress controls the budget. The executive gives a plan but Congress chooses how it is implemented. That's why we got ACA instead of M4A. It's why Congress voted on aid to Ukraine and Israel.
The executive does have control over some purse strings but not these direct budgets.