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The federal government is not considering dropping tariffs it imposed last year on Chinese electric vehicles (EVs), steel and aluminum, despite Beijing’s retaliation and U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to launch a trade war with Canada, according to the industry minister.

Ottawa imposed a 100 per cent import tax on Chinese EVs and a 25 per cent import tariff on Chinese steel and aluminum last October. Beijing retaliated over the weekend by imposing nearly $4 billion in tariffs on Canadian agricultural products, including canola oil and pork.

"We’re going to stand strong,” said Francois-Philippe Champagne, minister of innovation, science and industry, in an interview with Vassy Kapelos on CTV News Channel’s Power Play. “We want to protect our industry. We want to protect our workers. We want to protect our communities.”

The federal government, following the lead of then-U.S. President Joe Biden’s administration, imposed a 100 per cent import tax on EVs produced in China in October of last year, accusing Beijing of “distorting global trade” by exporting EVs at “unfairly low prices.”

Ottawa also imposed a 25 per cent import tax on Chinese-made steel and aluminum last October, accusing China of “pervasive subsidization” of its steel and aluminum industry.

In the wake of Trump’s decision to launch a trade war with Canada and China’s decision to impose new tariffs on Canadian products, B.C. Premier David Eby urged the federal government to rethink its tariff policy with all countries, including China.

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. If BYD wants to take over a car plant or something, I'm sure something could be worked out.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

It would almost certainly end up costing as much as a domestic EV already does. Cheap Chinese labour and government subsidies are what makes them so competitive.

[–] bravemonkey@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What ‘domestic ev’s do we even have?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It looks like it's just the Dodge Charger Daytona that's pure electric at the moment. There's several plug-in hybrids, though, and I assume a lot of Canadian parts in every "legacy" manufacturer American or Mexican EV. (Also the Arrow concept car, but that doesn't really count)

[–] seestray@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the pure electric version of that car is getting an ICE version (which I suspect will be the actual volume version of the car)

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Quite possible. The Charger is an old established brand as an ICE vehicle.

I see I actually missed the Chevrolet BrightDrop.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Chinese EVs are competitive entirely because Chinese robotics are global leaders. Labour is involved in building factories.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lol, when I see a paper out of a Chinese university I've come to instinctively expect poor quality or even obvious fraud. They're leaders in saying they're leaders.

Meanwhile, guess who's actually building the machine tools and factory robots that people are buying? Germany and Japan are prominent. Silicon valley has it's own niches. Ontario is apparently up-and-coming.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not an expert in quantity or quality of Chinese tech papers. They build and sell the most robots because they have the most customers for them. EV components especially are more "monolithic" than assembling an engine. Gigapresses quickly make full car bodies. China having the most new and total car plants have them a leader in the most modern manufacturing technique implementations.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

China's strength is in processes involving a balance of mature, last generation technology and cheap manual labour at large scales. That actually does describe EV manufacturing, and the Chinese government has really favoured that sector as well with things like subsidies.

When it comes to cutting edge stuff like automation and robotics, the West is still king, while heavily manual labour has shifted to younger emerging economies like Bangladesh.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China’s strength is in processes involving a balance of mature, last generation technology and cheap manual labour at large scale.

Your information is outdated. Many recent highly automated leading edge automation plants constructed. video on Xiaomi car plant pretty impressive, for example. One of their sources of cost advantage and leadership.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing Xiaomi had a hand in producing it, right? Again, they're leaders in saying they're leaders. Talk to industry people or just anyone who's spent serious time in China and you get a very different story from the propaganda.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 day ago

Ah yes, this highly produced YouTube video narrated by "Niel" who sounds a bit computer generated, with a white X cup in the thumbnail. This is definitely a good look at an everyday Chinese factory. /s

Hopefully you're getting paid to post it.