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Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris? Agent Orange is now bombing the ruins of Genocide Joe. Kamala would be doing the exact same thing as Donald Trump.
Correction: she would let Israel do as it pleases without officially cheering them on.
Liberals will jump up and down at handwringing genocide versus full blown genocide due to this weird utilitarianism they're clinging to as their empire crumbles.
Biden's constituents wanted an end to the genocide in Gaza. Biden ignored these constituents. Biden lost. That is how democracy works, and this outcome was more American than apple pie.
Screw the liberals who say that withholding votes to pressure politicians (the entire point of a democracy) is somehow fascist.
I don't think anyone is saying it's fascist. Just that it's fucking stupid.
Big difference!!! We don't need to hear what they gonna do, it's easier to ignore when they told us nothing!
Yes, the vice president controls the military. For sure, the military of another country. The tie vote for the senate, yeah ok.
Where was the Palestinian on stage at the DNC?
Huh. Didn’t realize Harris got elected. Someone should tell orangeboi.
Seriously dude: your first sentence is fully nonsense.
I think you've got your flashcards mixed up, comrade. You meant "Genocide Joe."
Words are hard, especially English with all the "yours" and "theres" but keep trying!
So the mask comes off. Rather than encouraging the exchange of ideas with people who make the effort of using a language other than their own, you resort to insults…. pathetic.
This has to be my favorite tactic: ignore every actual, thoughtful reply that contains points you cannot refute, and instead find the one snarky reply that was never meant to be informative or change anyone's opinion, and reply to that one pretending that the position is weak because it's the only response.
Classic move.
I already gave my opinion in this comment section. The people parroting "Kamala lost because of Pro-Palestinians" are ostriches that cannot look at themselves in the mirror due to their egocentrism. So when they fail all they can do to heal their hurt feelings is to scapegoat the weakest they have in hand rather than unit and fight back against extremism of all sorts.
Like at what point is it a fact and a reality that Pro-Palestinians had so much influence over the elections that it made trump win? like come on even if they all voted for her nothing would have changed.
Focus on the real issue, responsibility of the US and the international community, the situation is much older and complex than this idiotic debate about trump/biden/kamala.
There is currently a Genocide yet people keep changing subject with bs story.
Spare us your piffle.
Uh huh.... She would be talking about building a golf course over the ruins of Gaza? You sure about that?
Is building a golf course your red line, not genocide?
Straw man city. You motherfuckers just cannot help it.
What does it say about the strength of one's position when you have to, so frequently, resort to straw manning?
I'll take my answer off the air.
Donald Trump says a lot of things. What he did was get them two months of relative peace. That would not have happened under Kamala, there would be no intermission to "resume" bombing from, there would just still be bombing. If Kamala wanted those voters then she should have broke from Biden's support of Israel, which she did not do and is not how you get a ceasefire done with Israel. No, what she said is that we would have the "most lethal military" in the face of Palestinians her campaign blocked from speaking at the DNC. Biden said he had red lines, but never did anything when Israel crossed them.
That is how democracy works, you have to earn votes. "Vote for me or else" is not a fucking popular platform for what should be very obvious reasons.
Is it really more important to you to attack these voters and hold back the discourse, over 4 months after the election, as your government is breaking every rule in the book and your party is playing right along with it? The election result is not going to change no matter how many people you throw under the bus for it. These are the cards you were dealt, it's time to move on and play spades.
It must feel empowering to only hold positions that are impossible to prove or disprove. Super brave.
Meanwhile, anyone living in the real world that is actually paying attention knows that what is happening now (in the US and in Gaza) is not normal and is not what any Democratic President would be doing. You are only embarrassing yourself when you pretend otherwise.
I wouldn't know, maybe you can tell me more about it?
This is not an honest response to any of the arguments I made.
You are not a serious person. I will not be engaging further; I have organizing to do that does not involve scapegoating people who will be hurt by this administration or living in alternate realities where everyone unquestioningly does what I want them to do because I said so.
And yet it's what happened under them.....
When was that "under Kamala"? Is it in this room with us right now?
I might have bad news for you