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[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Now do rabbits, mice, bats, primates and everything with a brain actually.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most people only view cats and dogs of having any value worth protecting, which is terrible.

Oh, by the way, Doug's government also wants to make it illegal for people to know about the cruelty on factory farms.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Doug brought back the blood sport of penned hunting in 2024.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

This comment has a conflict of interest.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that include the eventual patients as well, for new treatments?

Like, there's strong questions about specism here, but somebody is going to have to go first.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Willing human beings are a better choice than unwilling animals. It’s not just speciesism since I don’t think speciesism is “bad” in the sense that it is inevitable, but rather that it is questionable how much results replicate across species.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

it is questionable how much results replicate across species.

No, it is not. WTF...you think we should be inducing heart attacks in people and harvesting their organs?

Other people, of course.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

People who are willing out of altruism, yes. But unfortunately you know that consent would be coerced. Prisoners and the poor would make up all experiment subjects. The only ethical way to do it is by lottery. People would look at the overall cost/benefit analysis of medical testing a lot more pragmatically if it was THEIR children being tested on.