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[-] harry_balzac@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

It's almost as if consumers influence markets.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 35 points 11 months ago

unfortunately we have to have a competing option to vote for with our wallets. There is not a single affordable EV available in the US.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

The Chevy Bolt and Nissan Leaf are both under $30k, and there's a Mini Cooper that's just barely over $30k. There's only 1 other car from Chevy that's cheaper than the Bolt, and only 2 models from Mini cheaper than their EV. Nissan seems to be a leader with cheap cars, with 6 cheaper models than the Leaf. When you add in the tax rebates for buying electric that reduces the price an additional $7500.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

Just 20k more to go to compete with what chinese drivers have access to.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Well yeah. We have safety laws. You cant build a car out of chinesium and have it pass US Safety tests.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

You know whats safe? A smaller, cheaper engine with a lower top speed. I dont need hundreds of miles of range and 100mph top speed

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Well you need a strong engine to get up to speed in a decent amount of time, and to go up hills full loaded. You also need tall gears for fuel efficiency. Combined, it means almost every production car can go 100+ mph.

Also range? Thats just a gas tank. A 10 gallon gas tank will take most small cars 300 miles, its not a lot. Why focus on range? Seems weird to me.

[-] blazera@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Sorry im used to engines, we're talking about EV's. Thats something other countries have as an option, lower speed, lower range, more affordable vehicles.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

Ah, so do we. Off highway vehicles. Few use them as a daily because why would you? A 10 year old used car is much better choice than anything new, if you want affordable, and you get the speed and range

[-] blazera@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Not off highway, street legal. Legal to drive on the 40mph roads we have in town. For climate purposes, gas price reasons, and fewer moving parts and maintenance involved, i want an electric vehicle.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

I couldn't agree more. For now, my options are electric scooters/bikes. Which are pretty great but don't have air conditioning!

The US will continue to trail behind the rest of the world in this industry due to the greed and ~~lobbying~~ bribery of the auto companies.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

You need a 20 lb electric motor to have absolutely butt-kicking torque in an EV.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago
[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, the battery is gonna weigh a lot.

[-] Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

As if American cars had any reputation for reliability XD

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

That's great. Half of America needs a 15k car. That's the magic number for Mass adoption.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 11 months ago

And where are you going to find any new car in the US for $15k? The average cost of a new car in the US this year was over $40k, and there are several EV options available for practically anyone in the market for a new car.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 17 points 11 months ago

If we start with an expensive sports car we will make enough money that it will eventually trickle down to affordable vehicles.

[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Porsche does have an EV, and there's an EV mustang now (only $45k, which shocked me)

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think it is at least as much about maturity of the technology, and competition in the market. Obviously we all want better cheaper cleaner cars. That hasn't suddenly changed.

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