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Tesla Cybertruck's stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla's Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck's stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.

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[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 155 points 10 months ago

Gonna be real fun to see the crash test rating.

Without crumple zones, all of the kinetic energy goes into the occupants.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 71 points 10 months ago

OTOH it weighs almost 7000lbs (~3100kg) so it's going to plow through most of everything with its sheer mass.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 102 points 10 months ago

You'd be surprised how much a concrete pillar holding up an overpass can actually take. They don't break like in the movies, they are specifically designed to take big truck impacts and not fail. Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes.

[-] lemann@lemmy.one 27 points 10 months ago

Anybody crashing a Cybertruck at highway speeds into one of those is instantly turned into red colored mashed potatoes

Why does that sound delicious 😭

[-] jennwiththesea@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

It is! In a pressure cooker, you can cook beets in a basket over a layer of potatoes and garlic cloves. The beet drippings turn the potatoes pinkish-red. Super fun for kids.

[-] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 16 points 10 months ago

But has the pressure cooker been crash tested

[-] DanglingFury@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Or you can just hang out under a highway overpass with a scoop and a cooler

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 5 points 10 months ago

Free range. Sustainable harvest. Recycling. Sounds good!

[-] Spur4383@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

case in point

We have barriers good enough to stop a fully-loaded semi in effectively zero distance.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Go hit a 10"+ tree in a pickup and see how fast you stop. You can wander over and pick the engine up when it flies out the hood. The tree will loose some bark.

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Been there, done that. 0/10. Do not recommend.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Same, hit a small (maybe 5") tree going about 60mph. Came to a complete stop immediately and put my head through the windshield. We went and peeled the license plate off the tree the next day.

I guess it put a little mark on the tree but it was basically fine, completely destroyed the car though.

[-] CAVOK@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For me it was a rather large tree that I hit at about 100km/h (+60mph). Tree was fine. Car, not so much. The ambulance ride was nice though, and the first responders thought we were extremely lucky to be alive.
Wear your seat belts kids.

[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 41 points 10 months ago

I thought a car had to have that before it went on sale?

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Believe it or not in the USA it’s actually based off of self compliance in the USA. There is no specific government body that has a standardized test that they have to pass to be made legal. The manufacture gets to make that decision themselves, then if there is an issue that the government finds later they can be pulled from the road.

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I hope they get pulled from the road. Problem is, he'll just bribe some government officials

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah have you seen the footage it’s as stiff as the rod up musks butt hole

[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago
[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

That's... computer generated. BeamNG maybe?

[-] yeptemp69420@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that's BeamNG, yeah. That sand looks like a texture from Johnson valley, I'm pretty sure the wall they're hitting is either a gas station or a garage model that was placed on a road, and the skid marks from the tires look the same as they do in BeamNG. You can see body panels and doors clipping through the body of the truck on several occasions, too.

[-] Felix_Bardner@pawb.social 27 points 10 months ago

Looked convincing at first, but it felt too clean- Then at 7 seconds in, you can watch a white panel clip straight through the door and windshield lol

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Yeah, without a disclaimer and evidence it's modeled correctly it's just straight misinformation at this point.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

Look at the name of the channel too.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Second crash, the body part above the front wheel goes straight through it.

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[-] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Wow looks unsafe as fuck!!

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 10 months ago

What makes you think it doesn't have crumple zones?

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.

It’s 4x as thick as current sheet metal used in other vehicles, and twice as thick as the steel bumpers used in old cars that didn’t have crumple zones.

That combined with the fact that they have stated that all of the strength and rigidity for the truck comes from the exoskeleton, that would preclude being able to crumple.

They have not made safety a priority in anything on this monstrosity. The windows are are all laminated and shatterproof, meaning you can’t break them to escape if there’s a fire or you end up underwater and the body is bulletproof meaning that it can’t be torn open with the jaws of life if you need to be extracted.

It’s a giant metal coffin.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because unless they have been outright lying in all of their specs, the entire body is made up of the same thick stainless steel that they have shown to be literally bulletproof.

Bulletproof steel can still crumple. And it does. It's not made of adamantium. It's a completely different type of force. The vehicle was crash-tested a long time ago. Just look at the photos.

E: wow, this guy is sharing straight up disinformation he pulled from his ass and I'm the one being downvoted...

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure you should be talking about others sharing disinformation when the crash tests were only released 8 days ago.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a46011736/tesla-cybertruck-crash-test/

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure you should be talking at all considering you don't seem to realize you can actually store footage from events that took place at an earlier date 🙄

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

So when you said:

The vehicle was crash-tested a long time ago. Just look at the photos.

You meant "just look at the video that was released a little over a week ago?" Because it sure didn't look like that's what you meant.

[-] weew@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

I don't know what the hell you've been reading, but they've never claimed the entire truck is solid stainless steel. Just the exterior panels.

they claimed that the exterior panels would be able to add to the rigidity and strength of the truck. Not that it was 100% rigid or that the exterior made up 100% of the structural strength.

The interior is still basically just a regular aluminum body like all their other cars.

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Windows will shatter just like any other car window, and a jaws of life would pull apart that tin can no problem.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

The side windows are laminated like a windshield. They are explicitly designed not to shatter.

[-] Cornpop@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

They are just regular tempered glass. That might have been the BS they claimed at the original announcement, but that did not make it to the production version.

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