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I made a blog post on my biggest issue in Lemmy and the proposed solutions for it. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

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[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 9 months ago

I appreciate the effort, but what is happening is option 1, aka merging of communities, naturally.

About knowing where to post, you can usually have a look at https://lemmyverse.net/communities, search the community name, and have a good idea of which one is the most active.

Sometimes different communities can coexist, and that's fine. !science@mander.xyz and !science@lemmy.world have different audiences, and that's okay.

[-] popcar2@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

I'm aware that people are slowly grouping up to one specific community per topic but I don't think this means there isn't an issue with communities being fractured. Using a third party tool to gauge which communities are popular also isn't a great solution. Just searching Linux shows:

I don't think each one of these communities has a different audience. It's the same audience, but there isn't an obvious answer for which one to visit or post in.

[-] stown@sedd.it 11 points 9 months ago

Id say that the obvious answer is the Linux community with the most members. !linux@lemmy.ml has more than double the number of subscribers of the next most active Linux community.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 points 9 months ago
[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

.ml is okay to discuss Linux, the overlap between the two communities makes sense

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au -2 points 9 months ago

The overlap between authoritarians and Linux?

Well I suppose North Korea does run the closed source RedStarOS.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 9 months ago

Oh like me?

Yeah we do overlap with Linux, the tankies however don’t.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 9 months ago

what makes you think they are authoritarian?

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because we all know how tankies are, so stop acting coy.

Maybe you should go conquer some bread instead of trying to defend maoists and stalinists.

[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Why does the this ignorant speech infest so many threads? No one gives a shit and any keyboard warrior crap you’re doing in your free time isn’t going to change anything going on in the world.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au -1 points 9 months ago

An opinion based on knowledge can hardly be called ignorant.

But if you’re having a bad day, hopefully that lil outburst helped you release some tension.

[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 1 points 9 months ago

You used a word salad of all the words the most anger ridden posts are filled with. That’s all I was pointing out.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What part do you think is a word salad exactly?

Because every part of what I said makes perfect sense.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -3 points 9 months ago

no one is defending maoists or stalinists.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You’re saying no one on .ml defends maoists and stalinists???

I bet nutomic has Che as their avatar for no reason at all.

parentis_shotgun posts in juche_gang on reddit for irony?

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 9 months ago

>You’re saying no one on .ml defends maoists and stalinists???

no, i'm saying no one here is.

and i don't think it's a major theme of there linux community either.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 9 months ago

So why comment when we were talking about what .ml does not what’s happening here?

So bizarre.

[-] stown@sedd.it 1 points 9 months ago

You don't need an account on lemmy.ml to subscribe to any community there. For example, I run my own self-hosted instance and none of the communities I'm subscribed to are from my own instance.

[-] Marsupial@quokk.au 0 points 9 months ago

Oh I meant more that you're interacting with them.

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure unless your instance is defederated, we need more ways to control the content without relying on defederation

It makes me feel like I should be making the post to multiple communities, but then I feel like I'm spamming

[-] hulemy@ani.social 4 points 9 months ago

It does kinda suck being defederated from big instances like lemmy.ml because there are big communities there, but at the other end it's nice to have alternatives on different instances. For example, I can't view !programmerhumor@lemmy.ml but I can access !programmer_humor@programming.dev.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

The PDev version is better anyway.

I have a few communities that are still on .ml, I forgot you guys were defederated, maybe I should move them elsewhere

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

Sure unless your instance is defederated, we need more ways to control the content without relying on defederation

Hopefully defederation will happen less and less with 19.X allowing users to block instances themselves

[-] Die4Ever@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah I think there needs to be more options though, for admins and for users. Like conditional caching or proxying of images from other instances.

And not just blocking instances but choosing to block all the users from an instance without blocking their communities, or only blocking their comments not their posts. Also admins should be able to set default blocks that all the users get but can change individually

[-] Blaze@discuss.online 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That would be nice indeed, but with the development rhythm, it might take a while to get there. Sublinks on the other hands seems promising sublinks.org

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 months ago

And you'll eventually get banned from it for not praising Stalin hard enough

[-] stown@sedd.it 1 points 9 months ago

Spoken like somebody who knows nothing about what they are saying.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Literally spoken as a leftist who has gotten bans for not being a Maoist bootlicker. My accounts with this name across multiple instances are the on a short leash for daring to question ML dogma.

[-] stown@sedd.it 1 points 9 months ago

If you don't insert politics into normal conversations and you value relationships more than you value being right (left) then this should not be an issue.

Stay away from the political communities and don't feel like you need to correct people when they spout out political bullshit.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

But I want to discuss politics and worldnews. I'm just not allowed, because wrongthink.

[-] stown@sedd.it 1 points 9 months ago

Then keep it in the politics and news communities, and don't be surprised when you are kicked. You don't go protesting at the KKK meeting expecting to change minds just like you don't try to go to !politics@lemmy.ml expecting to change minds. If you are looking for real discussion then don't go to a community that is hostile to the discussion you want to have.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 9 months ago

In this case, it's the first, which is obvious based on the number of subscribers and active users. You don't even need a third party tool, it's literally in the sidebar

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 3 points 9 months ago

It happens! I moderate !hockey@lemmy.ca, and recently !hockey@lemmy.world merged with us naturally.

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 9 months ago

, but what is happening is option 1, aka merging of communities, naturally.

[citation needed]

I don't see any community that has been mechanically, forcibly moved over to another instance. I can still post to !cats@a.net and !cats@b.xyz separately.

[-] Blaze@discuss.online 6 points 9 months ago

Cooking communities merged:

That's what I meant with natural merging of communities

[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

That's good to see, but still doesn't cover the case of what happens if those communities are in different instances. That's the really big issue with merging (naturally or not).

[-] Blaze@discuss.online 2 points 9 months ago

!unixporn@lemmy.ml is the reference. !unixporn@lemmy.world still exists, but has much less activity. There was some backlash at the time about the subreddit mods wanting to take over the .lw community, so everybody fled to .ml

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