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[-] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 545 points 6 months ago

Proving Netflix could be replaced by five hard working people.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 195 points 6 months ago

Proving Netflix could be ~~replaced~~ outdone by five hard working people.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 92 points 6 months ago

Proving Netflix should ~~could~~ be ~~replaced~~ outdone by five hard working people.

[-] AnxiousDuck@feddit.it 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

~~Proving~~ Netflix ~~should~~ ~~could~~ be ~~replaced~~ ~~out~~done ~~by five hard working people~~.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

Things are easier if you can steal stuff. And operate on a small scale.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 120 points 6 months ago

They didn’t need the army of lawyers to get license deals, so that’s not a fair comparison.

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 89 points 6 months ago

Its almost like its unecessary shit made up in order to keep profits away from working people artificially

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 73 points 6 months ago

Yeah its almost like if we didn't keep extending copyright protections a bunch of stuff would be in the public domain and any streaming service could offer it without having to deal with licensing.

[-] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

I mean that's all well and good, but then how would the very deserving shareholders get dividends?

Won't somebody think of the shareholders!?

[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 18 points 6 months ago
[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  1. Take over a failing company
  2. Hold a shareholder meeting
  3. Show the line going down
  4. Turn the chart upside down
  5. Become a hero to the shareholders
[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago

maybe if they actually invested some money somewhere they would make some money for once.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

It's true that Hollywood is corrupt and csuite pay is absurd, but those deals are the only mechanism by which ANY money makes it to the writers, actors and staff who deserve it

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 17 points 6 months ago

It's the exclusivity bullshit that gets me.

It could be: New movie is released! Anyone who pays the price tag gets to stream it!

But no, we must bidding war gouge.

On top of that, X Y and Z services exist in America, but not in other countries, so in this other country, everything is on Netflix, while I had to jump between three different services at one point just to watch Stargate

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Hey, you're just salty that you didn't get in on the ground floor when Stargate was being exclusively streamed in a dedicated Stargate streaming service

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Stargate+ Maxx Ultraviolet

[-] wagoner@infosec.pub 11 points 6 months ago

Or fund new content

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago

Their scale was also an insignificant fraction of what Netflix has, making the point even more irrelevant.

The best figure I could find on Jetflicks user count was 37k, where as Netflix has 269 million users.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Prices should go down with scale not up though.

There's initial investment on the initial servers (and the software), and afterwards it should be a linear increase of server costs per user, with some bumps along the way to interconnect those servers.

The cost also scales per content. Because that means more caching servers per user and bigger databases, and licenses.

So this service has less users and more content, it should be way more expensive. The only reason they are cheaper is because they don't pay those licenses.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

The cost of storage in this case is more or less irrelevant - traffic is what matters here. You're also not getting any mentionable bulk discount on the servers for that matter.

The key is that you can engineer things in completely different way when you have trivial amounts of traffic hitting your systems - you can do things that will not scale in any way, shape or form.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago

If we get rid of the licensing we get rid of the lawyers.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

If you get rid of licensing you get rid of the content

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 17 points 6 months ago

Certain types of content. But YouTube's own existence started because people made content without licensing rights.

[-] evidences@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Technically YouTube exists because three horny nerds wanted a dating site with video integration. It only turned into a video sharing site when they realized they couldn't find the clip of the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction and they decided they wanted to build that platform instead.

[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

I wonder what youribe would have been like if they didn't sell to google

[-] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 1 points 6 months ago

probably redtube

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[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Not really. I can undersgand licensing but at this point it's become a distopian practice completely separated from the basic need to monetize the content an make a profit. That's why those companies become such gargantuans monsters.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

If you save the cheerleader you save the world.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

Nope. People will still make content. It'll be on far less of a budget, but that didn't stop the Film School generation of independent films in the 1970s (before which you had to sell your life and soul and beating heart to a studio). In between all the schlock were the occasional arty films we consider classics today.

And then there's government subsidization of art projects, as per the National Endowment of the Arts.

I think the MCU movies, the DC movies, the many studio iterations of Spiderman have shown us what capitalism eventually churns out. Sony actually chose this path content as product the same resort to formula that plagued the music industry in the 1980s (and drove the Hip Hop Independent movement of the next half-century).

We just need to empower artists. Make sure they don't have to moonlight as restaurant wait staff in order to eat and pay rent while they create, and make sure they have access to half-decent (not necessarily high end) hardware with which to do their thing. And yes, as Sturgeon observes, most of it will be schlock, but through sheer quantity of content we'll get more gems than Hollywood is putting out.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

If you take away the ability to own and control your intellectual property, then you won't be empowered.

Licensing art allows creators to earn a living off of their hard work.

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Not in the US or the EU. If you make music in the States, then RCA or Sony owns your content, not you, and when they decide they've paid you enough (which is much less than they're getting) then they still own your stuff. Also, if you make an amazing film or TV series ( examples: Inception, Firefly ) and the moguls don't like it, they'll make sure it tanks or at least doesn't get aftermarket support, which is why Inception doesn't have any video games tie-ins, despite being a perfect setting for video games.

Artists are empowered in their ability to produce art. If they have to worry about hunger and shelter, then they make less art, and art narrowly constrained to the whims of their masters. Artists are not empowered by the art they've already made, as that has to be sold to a patron or a marketing institution.

No, we'd get more and better art by feeding and housing everyone (so no one has to earn a living ) and then making all works public domain in the first place.

Intellectual property is a construct, and it's corruption even before it was embedded in the Constitution of the United States has only assured that old art does not get archived.

I think yes, an artist needs to eat, which is why most artists (by far) have to wait tables and drive taxicabs and during all that time on the clock, not make art. The artists not making art far outnumber the artists that get to make art. And a small, minority subset of those are the ones who profit from art or even make a living from their art, a circumstance that is perpetually precarious.

But I also think the public needs a body of culture, and as the Game of Thrones era showed us, culture and profit run at odds. The more expensive art is, the more it's confined to the wealthy, and the less it actually influences culture. Hence we should just feed, clothe and home artists along with everyone else, whether or not they produce good or bad art. And we'll get culture out of it.

You can argue that a world of guaranteed meals and homes is not the world we live in, but then I can argue that piracy (and other renegade action) absolutely is part of the world we live in and will continue to thrive so long as global IP racketeering continues. Thieves and beggars, never shall we die.

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[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 77 points 6 months ago

The only reason all companies prices go up these days is for CEO pay packages

[-] 6gybf@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 months ago

I think it’s more for major shareholders (which includes CEOs, of course)

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Like Boeing's CEO making 300 million.... imagine 300 people who worked their ass off could make million. Or 1500 hard workers could be making 200k. But nah, let's just drag these huge bags of money into this one asshole's account. Oh there were a couple of crashes right? 👍 Our thoughts and prayers 🙏. But not our money wagons.

[-] AshMan85@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Regulate monopolies and eat the rich.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago

Does Netflix make shows? Or does it slam its name onto filmmakers it pays to make content? If so, one of those things simply requires throwing cash at people, which I think is a skill that most people can learn.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Did the pirate site pay anyone to make new shows?

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[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Does Netflix? Or do they pay production companies for content?

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

They use the subscription money to pay production studios. What did the pirate site use the subscription money for?

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Servers, electricity, bandwidth, blackjack and hookers.

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