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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17003005

President Biden brushed off concerns about his debate performance against former President Trump Thursday despite widespread panic among Democrats about how the night played out.

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[-] hudson@sh.itjust.works 53 points 4 months ago

Trump bloviated and lied while Joe stuck to the facts.

This will change nobody’s mind, but let Fox News shit themselves over their delusion…

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Trump told such incredible lies that I can’t believe he can do it with a straight face. I mean even he can’t believe all of it. I think he is just saying the most overtly wrong things to see if his base will ever call bullshit. Like some kind of competition to find out if he can convince them he was the first man in the moon or some shit.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

He actually said he didn't sleep with a porn star. Which is amazing to hear right after his related conviction.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Anyone would deny sleeping with a porn star. Trump said that liberals wanted the abortion decision sent to the states. Regardless of what you feel about abortion personally, that is one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Of course he believes it. That's how Malignant Narcissism works.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 48 points 4 months ago

They were both caricatures of themselves up there.

Trump was a bombastic bully who lied constantly and dodged virtually every question. Did little else but talk shit.

Biden was... Half asleep. Mumbling, trailing off stuttering, losing track of what he was saying...

This country is fucking embarrassing.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago

The problem is Trump was also far more put together than usual and didn't go for his normal style of interrupting everything. So he lied his ass off but his tone was reasonable. And that's something that fools way too many people.

[-] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

It’s not going to matter how Trump did because there’s gonna be clips of Biden all over social media showing him mumbling and stuttering. He looked terrible, the attack ad footage is just there for the taking.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago

They will make a bunch of super cuts of Trump talking confidently and then Biden trailing off and getting confused. They will flood Facebook and Tiktok with them.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 4 months ago

The “every accusation is a confession” rule suggests that he was on some meds to help him keep his composure. Definitely not any truth serums though.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

I still remember being dissappointed by the US when Bush became president. Then horrified when Trump won. Now I'm just scared and depressed.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 22 points 4 months ago

It was a terrible format. I thought the point of being able to mute them would to keep their answers on question but we got 3 minutes streams of consciousness where the guys rambled off as many of the talking points as they could before the timer ran out.

If Biden had been coached to provide very short, sweet, direct answers and not had an audible death rattle in his voice, he would've won.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

This 1000%. Even with the death rattle, he's the only one that actually answered any questions.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Since these debates are formatted like a game show anyways, why not go further and use a points system?

Imagine like anytime any player wants they can challenge what the other player said. Then a team of fact checkers is consulted and they give a truth rating. If the rating is ambiguous, nothing happens and we move on. If it turns out the player was lying, they get a penalty point. But if the player was telling the truth, the challenger gets a penalty point.

Three points and you're out, plus a bucket of slime gets dumped on you.

Let's make this shit fun to watch and call out the lies.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Too many lies and a trap door opens up that dumps grifter politicians in the dumpster where they belong

[-] nieceandtows@programming.dev 17 points 4 months ago

He probably believes it too.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

widespread panic among Democrats about how the night played out.

The Republicans have been in "widespread panic" and in various states of chaos over the past couple of years over lots of issues, and it has made no difference in voter support whatsoever.

This "panic" among Democratic pundits will make no difference in voter support either.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 4 months ago

It was like watching 9/11 all over again, Joe.

[-] hypnoton@discuss.online 3 points 4 months ago

A fascist vs a capitalist zombie is not "we did well."

America is fucked.

Biden is not thinking clearly.

this post was submitted on 28 Jun 2024
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