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[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 166 points 1 month ago

Actually you could eat vaccines with no problems (unless you tried to eat the syringes too) but it would be a waste.

[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Stomach acid and digestive enzymes will just deactivate most components. Live vaccines might cause issues (probably wouldn't want to drink the TB vaccine). The post in discussion shows a shocking fundamental misunderstanding about how all of this works though. It is meant for like-minded people who would accept this logic.

[-] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Oral BCG was used in recent clinical studies and it was found that revaccination orally induces circulating cell-mediated immune responses, but does not induce a positive TST in responsive individuals."

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Well dang, now I'm wondering if it's actually safe to shoot broccoli

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

You could just stab it. No need to use a gun, it can't run fast at all

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You've clearly never had to deal with 30-50 feral broccolis in your yard.

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

It makes me wonder if there are any substances that are safe to inject straight into your tissue that your body would even notice--let alone kill you--if you ingested in the same quantity as an injection. Icky taste aside...

[-] user134450@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago

Maybe some compound that is relatively harmless on its own but yields a toxic compound in contact with stomach acid? Blood is slightly alkaline so it would not trigger after an injection and leave time for the kidneys and liver to degrade it. Maybe some cyanogenic glycoside?

[-] No_Money_Just_Change@feddit.org 70 points 1 month ago

I think you could drink a spoonfull of vaccines with no ill effects

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

Yes, in general if you can safely inject something then you can safely eat it too (it'll taste like shit though). Vaccine won't work that way, but you probably won't even feel any I'll effects beyond the terrible taste.

I'm actually curious if there are any exceptions to this - things you can inject but highly toxic if ingested.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 month ago

Antivaxx mfers when they learn some vaccines are administered orally

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Vaccines are the opposite of healthy, they are specifically made to trigger your immune system. That's why with most vaccines the next day or days people feel like shit, it's like being sick. But the vaccine is much better than getting the disease it's designed for, is perfectly safe and has no permanent effects besides the training it gave the immune system.

Plus most vaccines are perfectly fine to eat, they just won't work that way.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 month ago

That's like saying exercise is the opposite of healthy, it tears muscle fibres triggering your body to repair them.

[-] exanime@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

That’s why with most vaccines the next day or days people feel like shit

I have been warned about this for every vaccine I remember taking... other than the occasional sore spot where the injection went, I have never felt any other side effects.

This is anecdotal of course, but I am pretty sure the instances of these mild side effects is less than 10%

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Usually I don't really feel any vaccines, maybe a bit less energy the day after.

But one of the covid vaccines (I think the one for omicron) hit me like a ton of bricks, I was passed out on my bed for a good 24 hours and felt like shit for a couple of days. Heard similar from other people. But with another covid shot I felt nothing where my girlfriend had the worst headache for a day.

So it depends as always. One day of being sick is so much better than getting some of the awful diseases I've been vaccinated against.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

One day of being sick is so much better than getting some of the awful diseases I’ve been vaccinated against.

And even more to the point, it's also much better than spreading some of the awful diseases we get vaccinated against!

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I felt worse after both the covid and the flu vaccine than i did from getting actual covid, but actual covid lasted longer. It varies a lot by person afaik. Not sure if it's an indicator of how strong ones immune system is or anything.

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[-] Boozilla@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

I'm sorry I ate all the vaccines everyone. I was really hungry.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Your everything-immunity better make up for it. Next time there's a bio hazard you're getting a call.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 month ago

I’m struggling to think of any substance that is safe to inject but not ingest. How would that even work?

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 month ago

perhaps with something that when injected is inert but when ingested it mixes with the stomach acids and becomes poisonous?

Amygdalin comes to mind, but I'm not sure if it produces cyanide even when not in the stomach/intestine and just in the bloodstream, so obviously do not try it

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Saline should be fine, it's just salt water. You wouldn't want to chug a ton of it, but even a glass certainly won't hurt you.

Edit: After some googling, swallowing insulin wouldn't hurt you either. It won't help your diabetes, but it's definitely not poisonous.

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[-] ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Breathing pure oxygen can kill you. If you want to preserve your pure bloodlines, it's best to not take vaxs and even better if you get a nitrogen tank and breath just that. It'll clean up the gene pool really fast.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Instructions unclear, injecting oxygen into veins.

[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Veins are for bleach

[-] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 month ago

I prefer smoking broccoli myself.

[-] mxcory@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

"So are carrots, but you don't see me injecting them between my toes!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guu_XOa-gIw

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

🥦🚬

Back when weed wasn't legal in Germany, my SO and I would call it broccoli when talking to each other. Funny to think back to it

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Got it, so the only food we should ever eat is Blood.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Speak for yourself, i'm 97% lard

[-] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

Umm...lard. Why'd the most delicious things always the most unhealthy? Ughh, my mom used to cook with homemade lard when I was a kid (before the time of vegetable oil). The crusty pig skin left over after making the lard is my #1 snack as a kid, always craving that shit. We switched to vegetable oil when I'm about 7 or 8 yo, still miss that shit till today.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

So many MANY people died before we invented vaccines. Those people must be spinning in their graves seeing the stupidty that exists today.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Judging by the date this is actually a "true" antivaxxer and not a politically "inspired" Trump loving antivaxxer that only believes that stuff because they were manipulated by right wing media.

Take that as you will I guess lol props to them for "thinking for themselves" I guess? They should just do a little less of it though apparently...

[-] lgmjon64@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

The polio vaccine would like to have a word with you.

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Came here to say this. They literally administered the polio vaccine on sugar cubes. But most people don't remember that now.

[-] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What the fuck.

[-] smackjack@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Will you actually die if you drink a spoonful of vaccine?

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

Definitely not. If you had enough volume to fill a spoon, around 15 mL, it would be 30-60 times greater than your typical injected vaccine. Some individuals might have a slight immune reaction (think upset stomach, body aches, etc) to its viral fraction, but those people would likely have a similar reaction to the same vaccine being injected. Many people wouldn't notice anything at all.

[-] netvor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Pretty much certainly yes. Within 100-120 years.

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Almost certainly not.

[-] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

You joke, but there are influencers tryling to convince people that vegetables are bad because they contain harmful chemicals.

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

Well they are known to contain dihydrogen monoxide, which is lethal to inhale in relatively small quantities.

[-] dave@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

It kills more people annually than almost any other chemical.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There are harmful chemicals in some vegetables. Solanine in potatoes, for example. Not enough to be dangerous though unless you ingest a truly remarkable volume of potato skin. The dose makes the poison, as they say.

[-] damo_omad@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The rotavirus vaccine is literally administered orally

[-] tino@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

yep, it's true. Don't eat needles, dudes.

[-] netvor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone in this post is asking "but would a spoonful of vaccine actually kill you"

but no-one is asking "but would a broccoli injection actually kill you".

(Neither am I.)

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