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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by captainkangaroo@discuss.tchncs.de to c/degoogle@lemmy.ml

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don't abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

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[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 11 points 12 hours ago

Not going to be a popular opinion but that doesn't surprise me at all, almost certainly breaks their tos.

I think people should focus more on stuff like peertube that doesn't just piggyback off another service against said service provider's wishes

[-] JameUwU@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 hours ago

None of the creators I want to follow are on peertube, and I have no social media to ask them to move, nor do I want to engage with those platforms.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago

Which at the end of the day is your choice, as much as it's theirs not to use foss tools like mastodon and peertube

[-] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Like wanting to donate but they only offer proprietary, big corpo middlemen options like Patreon or Paypal or Microsoft GitHub Sponsors where they scrape off the top without adding any value.

[-] JameUwU@lemmy.ml 1 points 42 minutes ago

Yeah this is also a frustration I have. I dont want to sign up for patreon or Google just to support someone. Give me a Kofi, liberapay or monero option.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Sure, I agree, but at the end of the day it's useful to be able to search and watch YouTube videos so long as it's a popular platform because it still has by far the bulk of topics covered.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

You can do that through their own interface though, there are browser extensions to do all the things invidious did anyway

Not like going to the website will cause your computer to blow up or something, if privacy is the concern there are plenty of ways to anonymise it

[-] net00@lemm.ee 37 points 21 hours ago

Title is kinda misleading. The issue only affects public instances, and it has been an ongoing problem since many months ago. Basically the moment youtube detects lots of traffic from one IP it gets blocked, and need sign-in.

It seems this block just became harder to work around, and they started blocking all IPs from hosting providers, but I'm sure a solution will be found eventually.

If you have a spare laptop/PC/raspberry pi you can host your own invidious in your home. It won't get blocked, it will be much faster, and you can use options that are usually disabled on public instances (the API and DASH quality).

Then you can add something like tailscale/twingate into the mix to access it outside your home. Self hosted wireguard can also work if your ISP gives you a static IP or you setup a DDNS service. I personally use twingate because I don't like opening any port in my router.

[-] ironsoap@lemmy.one 8 points 15 hours ago

I appreciate the cogent context and solution oriented post.

I'd also say though that from a privacy standpoint self-hosting invidious is still allowing GeoIP info to be attached to downloaded videos, which is a fingerprint which can be used by data mining. Admittedly rather abstract as in this case the primary point of deplatforming might just be to de-ad, or give better video control, etc, and not obfuscate for privacy sake.

As I said though great points!

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i feel like this makes it on par with eg newpipe right? since newpipe doesn’t have a server, so all requests are direct to youtube

people seem to be okay with the fingerprint trade-off… and a vpn (as in, an external vpn that invidious routes all traffic through) would help with that

[-] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

I feel like I only know just enough about docker containers to get myself into trouble.

I’ve ran a few docker containers for things like Minecraft Bedrock for my kid and his friends and a local Ubooquity server and stuff like that but I’m wondering if anyone has made a guide for glutun VPN bind + an Invidious instance with tailscale/twingate setup you mentioned.

I am just an iPhone pleb who really loved using Yattee while it worked and assume a similar setup to what you described would allow me to point my Yattee to the self-hosted instance.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

At what point/what would it take for yt-dlp to be shut down?

[-] sovietknuckles@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 minutes ago

yt-dlp now suffers from the same issue that Invidious does: uncircumventable rate-limiting based on IP address.

You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won’t work anymore.

Same for yt-dlp, currently: It works from your residential IP address, but not a datacenter IP address like a VPN.

If you get Sign in to confirm that you're not a bot or This helps protect our community. in yt-dlp, do not actually try to sign in, because that will get your account banned (see yt-dlp/yt-dlp#10128).

So once a solution is found for Invidious, yt-dlp will be able use it too, and vice versa.

[-] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago

Newpipe still kicking. Sorry for invidious tho.

[-] FormallyKnown@feddit.dk 39 points 1 day ago

The day newpipe dies is the day I leave YouTube behind

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 day ago

And move to what? Sadly YouTube is monopoly right now :/

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Peertube is a thing but getting people to upload to it is gonna be tricky

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 33 points 1 day ago

We don't have to watch YouTube... :)

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

But where will I get my 4 hour lives streams devoid of any meaningful content??

[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

hoopla, Kanopy, Udemy.

all available through my library

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

YouTube doesn't have a monopoly on live streams

[-] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

watching less youtube was one of my resolutions this year, it’s not going very well. remind me to skip the trash and watch more movies / read more books instead

[-] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

i had that same resolution last year, and in the end youtube drove me away from YouTube, I watch about 1 video every two months but even that is usually just for nostalgic reasons. I have no desire to watch YouTube anymore, even though I used to watch at least 5 hours a day. All that because of their anti consumer actions.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago

Not watching so many videos, I guess. Maybe get a Nebula subscription (ersonally, I watch a lot of video essays).

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 10 points 1 day ago

Get a dog. It'll absorb much of the free time that YouTube used to waste, but in a far more rewarding manner.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 day ago

Freetube still works, as well. AFAIK, they're basically rate-limiting the instances, so alternative clients that connect directly to youtube, as well as small invidious instances are good.

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Gotta love FreeTube. PokeTube also works decently, although it only supports subscriptions via RSS.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago

Need to use alternatives to YouTube and move the creators to, YouTube is shitting on our face day after day, and the problem is that we can't hide ourselves to access them since they are blocking Tor and datacenters adresses... Good luck!

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

That is a very unpleasant analogy

[-] kionite231@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

It was expected since it makes sense to cut off users that don't generate any revenue. YouTube has now became like Instagram or Facebook where you have to make an account to view anything on their platform

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Because they still want to support embedded video you can still watch using apps from your own IP or download using yt-dlp

[-] furycd001@lemmy.ml 9 points 23 hours ago

The day I can no longer download videos from YouTube will be the day I take a step back from it altogether....

[-] tht@mstdn.social 5 points 1 day ago

@captainkangaroo rip, glad grayjay still works atleast

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