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submitted 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) by ColdWater@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml
  • Price: 370$
  • Model: Asus ROG Strix G15 (G531GV)
  • CPU: Intel I7 9th Gen
  • GPU: Nvidia RTX 2060 6GB
  • Ram: 16GB
  • Storage: Samsung SSD 980 Pro 1TB (NVME)
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[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 31 points 7 hours ago

How often do you write the word "wads"? I can see a potential problem.

[-] faultypidgeon@programming.dev 12 points 4 hours ago

ht o you men? You cn typ jut fine ith keybor like tht.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 9 points 4 hours ago
[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 6 points 2 hours ago

I genuinely didn't realise that! It looked like they were missing, and just had the little nubs underneath.

Would you perhaps like to imagine they were missing, if only for the sake of my previous comment? :)

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 hours ago

Solid device

However, your battery life is going to be like 2 minutes

[-] Cornelius@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

This

Gaming laptops usually have atrocious battery life, especially ones with Intel i9s and comparatively weak GPUs. Means they put the whole budget of the laptop into the CPU and nothing else.

[-] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

For that price I'd buy it myself

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

Did someone spraypaint this before removing stickers from it? Because if that is the case hell yea buy it. You will never agaín find a laotop with such style ever again. Especially at that price.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 14 points 12 hours ago

2060, 9th gen and 1Tb SSD for 400 is a good deal in my opinion. Don’t fear the nvidia BS spreaded here, with an up to date distro, it is no problem

I use my 780 with endeavourOS and latest proprietary driver without issues. I had to switch some packages from the nauvau edition to the nvidia editions. (Vulcan and cuda stuff)

In kde settings about page you can easily check if vulcan is running good

[-] finestnothing@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

The main limitation of Nvidia gpu's is you can't use Wayland on most WM's (you can on Ubuntu, but then you're using Ubuntu)

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I think since version 550 of the proprietary driver, it is mostly possible, if your card is compatible (meaning not legacy), but yea, I as well have to switch ch to X.org for some things. (Proton Cyberpunk, for example)

For legacy cards, the open source driver are most of the time best bet, if you are not running a legacy kernel since nvidia does not update those anymore (there are community patches of legacy proprietary driver to make them work on newer kernel, but they often have less features than using the card with nouveau)

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

NVIDIA drivers are notoriously bad. They break and WILL depreciate your card eventually, forcing you to switch to the slow open source drivers.

I have had two cards lose support. It's absurd.

But for 370 it's kinda a steal honestly.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

I would love to here more info about your issue, I bet there was just a misunderstanding 😇

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[-] Mango@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

There's a lot of naysayers in here with ideas born out of fashion advice similar to the "if it tastes good, it's bad for you" crowd. That laptop is a fantastic deal so long as it's all in one piece! Nvidia has shaky driver support, but you'll be fine.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 37 points 17 hours ago

If there's nothing wrong beyond the hideous consmetic damage sure.

Some distros have some very specific images like this one that I would install if I had the same computer: 1000010590

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

I'd tell them to knock 50-70 off for the condition of the surfaces. No idea about the model and specs or if that's worth it but that's an ugly case on it and I would be grossed out using it, would probably have to tape a sheet of paper over the worn out spots to be comfortable touching that surface.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

My laptop, similar Taiwanese brand, is fairly new and already beginning to look like this. I don't know why they have to be such cheapskates with the crappy fake metal finish. Somehow we can find enough aluminum to make disposable Coke cans out of it but it's too expensive for a laptop casing.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

What model?

It sounds like a really cheap model.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Model and price is unimportant. But if metal's too expensive and they can't do a fake chrome finish that doesn't wear off in 5 minutes then then they should just stick to white or black.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Sure, but I'm just curious because of course a very cheap model is very cheaply constructed.

Also comparing cans to machined aluminium is pretty weird when they are completely different.

[-] boreengreen@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago

Older, out of support, nvidia drivers tend to break from time to time.

[-] notTheCat@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it will be supported for more than a couple of years, my 930m (not even mx) is still receiving the latest driver updates

[-] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 19 points 17 hours ago

Gaming laptops have some of the worst builds. They break down very easily. This is why people go for Thinkpads and Elitebooks. I think that you can get yourself a 7th/8th gen Thinkpad Pxy, P1 or X1 Extreme series with a gDPU, and that would be a better deal - but do remember, they all have Nvidia dGPUs. And if you don't really need a dGPU, then there's the Thinkpad T series with the Ryzen processor.

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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 17 points 17 hours ago

Cant recommend anything with Nvidia.

[-] SaveMotherEarthEDF@lemmy.world 25 points 17 hours ago

Sorry but could you please elaborate. I've been using nvidia forever in linux machines both at work and at home. I work in AI so using nvidia gpus is a must. Maybe there's something that I missed but my experience has been pretty solid so far.

At home I am using openSUSE tumbleweed KDE wayland and at work ubuntu headless.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

These days ROCm support is more common than a few years ago so you're no longer entirely dependent on CUDA for machine learning. (Although I wish fewer tools required non-CUDA users to manually install Torch in their venv because the auto-installer assumes CUDA. At least take a parameter or something if you don't want to implement autodetection.)

Nvidia's Linux drivers generally are a bit behind AMD's; e.g. driver versions before 555 tended not to play well with Wayland.

Also, Nvidia's drivers tend not to give any meaningful information in case of a problem. There's typically just an error code for "the driver has crashed", no matter what reason it crashed for.

Personal anecdote for the last one: I had a wonky 4080 and tracing the problem to the card took months because the log (both on Linux and Windows) didn't contain error information beyond "something bad happened" and the behavior had dozens of possible causes, ranging from "the 4080 is unstable if you use XMP on some mainboards" over "some BIOS setting might need to be changed" and "sometimes the card doesn't like a specific CPU/PSU/RAM/mainboard" to "it's a manufacturing defect".

Sure, manufacturing defects can happen to anyone; I can't fault Nvidia for that. But the combination of useless logs and 4000-series cards having so many things they can possibly (but rarely) get hung up on made error diagnosis incredibly painful. I finally just bought a 7900 XTX instead. It's slower but I like the driver better.

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[-] aspitzer@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Nvidia works just fine on Linux despite what anyone says. People are just upset because it's a closed source driver. I have used Nvidia exclusively for like decades without issue. Just purchased an RTX3090ti (upgrade from a 2060) for Ollama, InvokeAI, and ComfyUi. Plus I do a lot of gaming. All of it works right out of the box with no tweaking.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 7 hours ago

People are just upset because it's a closed source driver.

Absolute nonsense. I've attempted to install them on several Nvidia devices with no success. Even distros that explicitly state Nvidia support out of the box. Could I have made it work? Maybe. Do I have time to fuck with it? No. Just get AMD and be guaranteed it'll work. Why bother?

Just because you've had a different experience doesn't invalidate others'.

[-] Cpo@lemm.ee 11 points 13 hours ago

My experience with Nvidia (granted, 3 years old experience):

Going with the closed source driver means stuff breaking each kernel update. Going with the opensource driver (while it may work for you): not everything is supported.

So its not just "people being annoyed with Nvidia" i'd say.

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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Man I wish my time with Nvidia was as easy as you claim it to be.

I had a 1080 Ti that I was forced to sell because Nvidia drivers made my PC unusable.

The performance drop going from a 1080 Ti to a RX 580 was huge, but it was well worth it for a system that would actually work reliably.

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