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Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.

Original Broadway Poster:

Movie poster:

Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”

So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.

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[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

Look, I'm all about listening to a woman of color explain how something that might seem innocuous to a white man like me might actually be harmful. I'm willing to accept that there are things I don't fully understand and I'm willing to take a different perspective if pressed.

But I can't wrap my head around this one. Elphaba is a fictional character. The movie poster is almost the same as the Broadway playbill. Theatre nerds with photoshop adjusted it as a homage, and understandably so. Hiding beneath the the rim of your hat with a smirk on your face has a much different feel than staring deadpan at the camera. Wicked fans are just expressing their excitement about this movie...

This argument that "covering my eyes erases me and silences my nonverbal communication" just doesn't check out. It's clear why people made that specific adjustment, and to suggest that it was a deliberate attack against the actress is just grasping at straws. This isn't a story about the woman Cynthia Erivo, this is a story about the character Elphaba Thropp, The Wicked Witch of the West. She isn't the first to play Elphaba, and she won't be the last. If she's mad that people see the character she plays and not her, she needs to reconsider her philosophy towards acting, because that kinda the whole point...

[-] stringere@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

She should take notes from Coolio regarding his beef with Weird Al:

"F*** no, man, I let that go so long ago," Coolio responded. "Let me say this: I apologized to Weird Al a long time ago and I was wrong. Y'all remember that, everybody out there who reads this s***.

"Real men and real people should be able to admit when they're wrong and I was wrong, bro. Come on, who the f*** am I, bro? He did parodies of Michael Jackson, he did parodies of all kinds of people and I took offense to it because I was being cocky and s*** and being stupid and I was wrong and I should've embraced that s*** and went with it.

"I listened to it a couple years after that and it's actually funny as s***. It's one of those things where I made a wrong call and nobody stopped me. That's one thing I'm still upset about—my management at the time. Somebody should've stopped me from making that statement because it was dumb. And I think it hurt me a little bit. It made me seem stupid."

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 34 points 3 days ago

What an utterly ridiculous and inconsequential thing to get upset about. Someone should tell her to re-read what she just wrote and think about how stupid it sounds.

[-] FatherGascown@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

What is she trying to communicate anyway? She has the plainest, most boring face of all time, just staring at the camera with the eyes of a dead fish. There is no communication going on.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I think she's trying to communicate her skincare routine.

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[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 52 points 4 days ago

because, without words we communicate with our eyes

IDK, the original and the edit both communicate way more mystique and mischievousness than the one with her eyes visible

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 16 points 4 days ago

You know, like how the wicked witch would

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 69 points 4 days ago

If that’s the most offensive thing they have seen they live a charmed life.

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[-] stewie3128@lemm.ee 99 points 4 days ago

The ego and vanity is astounding. And the movie poster sucks because she's looking straight at the camera.

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

And I'm 90% sure that originally they wanted to make it matches the original styling but she fought to keep her face fully visible. So that's why she's so irked that there's a fan who made that edit and proved the people who suggested that in the first place right.

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago

Stolen from reddit

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I was on the fence about giving any time to viewing Wicked but I think it's gonna be a hard pass now.

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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In matters of taste, the customer is always right.

Nobody but the audience gets to decide what the audience wants. Not writers, not actors, not directors, not graphic designers. If you can give the audience something they didn't know that they wanted until they got it, so much the better for you. But if the audience just plain wants something else, then there's no amount of cajoling or negotiation that will make them feel otherwise.

That said, I have no idea what the collective response is to either of these posters, and this does feel a bit like a tempest in a teapot.

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Without words we communicate with our eyes

True, but this actress ain't doing that. She's completely dissociated in the pic, her expression so blank and emotionless, screaming that she's dead inside. While a dissociated character could make a good villain, it's not hard to see that the character in the poster for the musical isn't a dissociated villian who is unaware of her cruelty but someone who is fully conscious of and revels in it. It's only natural that people who are fans of the original work notice just how out of character this is and try to fix it.

Don't like it? Stop making stupid remakes of ancient stuff and make something original for once! Maybe try putting some emotion into it!

But you know, that'd require Hollywood actually put in effort and they've probably forgotten how to do that by now. Seriously, is anyone watching the new shit that they fart out over there these days? Most everyone I know either rewatches old shit or watches anime. Hey, maybe we'll see the rise of Bollywood over the next couple decades, who knows?

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago

Huh. This is why you need a PR team.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 25 points 4 days ago

Yeah maybe not calling out your fans on making things that build excitement for your upcoming project is the best course of action as an actor. It's like Daisy Ridley calling out Star Wars fans for having the wrong body shape in cosplay or something else equally stupid. They're fans. They're having fun. You don't get to tell your fans how they're supposed to enjoy your work.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 24 points 4 days ago

Yea lady, that's totally just as bad as people asking if your ***** is green.

[-] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 127 points 5 days ago

If it was her decision that her full face should be on display, the backlash should be evidence enough that someone else gets paid to make those decisions, not her.

The original looks boring. She has absolutely no emotions on her face. There's no mystique, no 'wickedness'. Even the composition looks like something a high schooler in Photoshop class would make.

The edit isn't perfect either. But at least it pays homage to the original in more than just image. It adds that mystique back, and makes her look more menacing.

What it truly boils down to is ego. Although the edit is better, and so many people agree on it, it doesn't show her full face. And she can't let that go.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 55 points 5 days ago

Guaranteed this whole thing came up before that it didn't match the style. She showed her cards and now makes it sound like she was the one who pushed against matching the original. Now that the fans see it and dislike it (probably like they warned that fans would), she's mad about it. It really sounds like she pushed for this design so it wouldn't hide her face and now she's furious that fans reacted in the exact way that was predicted.

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[-] kshade@lemmy.world 79 points 4 days ago

This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

Congratulations I guess?

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[-] nobody158@sh.itjust.works 89 points 5 days ago

Imo the fan one is better. They should have done the red lipstick with a smirk rather than green and looking bored.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 65 points 4 days ago

Bit of an overreaction if you ask me

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

Theatre kids gonna theatre

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

The original composition with her eyes covered is just better and way more interesting.

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[-] Kayday@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I prefer the original poster. The new poster still looks like Wicked to me, and I would be disappointed if it recreated the original exactly. The fan edit is fun, I like it, but I understand artists from current year who made the modern poster would want to make a statement different than artists from when the original came out.

Everyone is making art, why do we have to be mad about that?

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 60 points 5 days ago

Nerve status: Struck

As we all know snapping at the fans, especially over matters of source material accuracy, always works out well for everyone involved in the making of the adaptation.

[-] 5in1k@lemm.ee 16 points 4 days ago

Yeah. Metallica sued their fans 20 years ago and I still won’t listen to them on purpose and shit talk them when I hear them.

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[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 30 points 4 days ago

Totally proportionate reaction.

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[-] rothaine@beehaw.org 27 points 4 days ago

In the original Broadway poster and the fan edit, it looks like they're up to something--there's some mischievousness at play, some wickedness.

I don't really know what the full-face one is supposed to convey.

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